To the posters of this fourm, understand constructive criticism

[Kazen]

With the staggering amount of logical fallacies that gets posted on a daily basis unchecked while certain people mash the report button at every post they don't "like" because it "makes too much sense" I would not mind if the forum were closed at all.

You know very well what part you're playing. If you want professional posts, start locally.

I don't think I could have said it better myself.

[Pharaun]

Mine is 100-0 and everyone should be like that here.

Hahaha, oh wow, that is the funniest thing I have read all day, thanks Rambus.

If I was someone in power of SE I would make a statement, "shape up or ill shut down the forums". I read long ago that when it was Japanese only they had a forum for a few months but shut it down.
Do you really want them to shut this down because you cannot control your troll urges?

Quite frankly I wouldn't have a problem if SE decided to shut down these forums because they were a terrible idea to begin with. Official forums pretty much always degenerate into a steaming pile of crap because the woefully uneducated and misinformed always seem to make it their stronghold. These are the type of people who don't understand what constructive criticism is and tend to think that anyone who disagrees with them is personally attacking them. These types of people can't have a calm, rational debate about in game mechanics or ideas for changes and resort to spamming the report button whenever anyone dares to have a differing opinion. Eventually the people who do know what they're doing get tired of trying to stem the unending tide of retardation and terrible ideas that they give up and the forums end up as a circle jerk of horrible ideas/suggestions and even worse ones.

[Mrbeansman]

Be professional you are talking to a business, not your drinking buddy.

Because spamming the report button on any post that even remotely strays from your POV is totally professional right?

[Korpg]

People are going to disagree with anyone just because they don't like them from a previous post of "he said, she said."

While it would be nice for people to understand constructive criticism, 99.9% of people don't even understand the word "constructive" that well, so there will always be a "no, your stupid lulz" mentality everywhere.

[wish12oz]

Quite frankly I wouldn't have a problem if SE decided to shut down these forums because they were a terrible idea to begin with. Official forums pretty much always degenerate into a steaming pile of crap because the woefully uneducated and misinformed always seem to make it their stronghold. These are the type of people who don't understand what constructive criticism is and tend to think that anyone who disagrees with them is personally attacking them. These types of people can't have a calm, rational debate about in game mechanics or ideas for changes and resort to spamming the report button whenever anyone dares to have a differing opinion. Eventually the people who do know what they're doing get tired of trying to stem the unending tide of retardation and terrible ideas that they give up and the forums end up as a circle jerk of horrible ideas/suggestions and even worse ones.

I was going to say this, but I got beaten =|

[Darka]

If somebody comes off with ridiculously incorrect or stupid claims/comments, you'll find people will generally laugh/criticize that person, usually they're corrected first. Consistently denying facts/math for "opinion" or whatever is just annoying, and fallible logic steers other players in bad directions. That person then results to mashing the report button because he got butthurt, that's not acknowledging constructive criticism, so I find the OP quite self contradictory. Then a thread gets nuked along with whatever posts were actually good/correct.
These forums are meant to be for well thought out ideas, advice and debate, not QQ my job needs a buff or make Gukumatz easier to claim.

[Seriha]

Everyone's fondness for any given idea will vary, but to automatically disqualify job gripes or claim/congestion issues is kinda silly. If they can't be brought up here, then where? Arguably doing so on Alla or other sites hasn't done much good, since some things are pretty ancient in their brokenness or disuse.

Meanwhile, there are certainly some who try to hide behind the label of constructive criticism or some higher level of maturity. How that involves name calling, troll tags, questionable sigs, and rounding up their buddies to do the same is beyond me. The fact some now have 3+ warnings/suspensions and are still at it puzzles me. I'm beginning to wonder if SE banning people from the game for their behavior here was an empty threat, as by the confession of these "enlightened ones" elsewhere, that risk is the only reason that had been keeping them from nerdraging here. Knowing they mean it along with continued diligence is what can help make the place more enjoyable, not letting some behaviors slide because the perpetrators believe it has to be done that way to make their own points.

[Darka]

Job gripes are fine when people make good suggestions based on knowing the mechanics behind the job. Example, the abundance of threads with PLD "fixes" on every forum in existence, with one idea after another circling around "give PLD provoke or other enmity gaining abilities" is way off the mark with what is actually hurting the job. And those who read them time and again get frustrated, the OP then determines this disregard as "rude" and mashes the report button. That's not annoying? I'm all for debate and improvement of jobs, but the same stuff over and over with little to no thought put into it just gets irritating to read, you can't really blame all of the reactions shown by readers.

[Mrbeansman]

I'm sorry but personal attacks and name calling leave an impression which has a possibility of convincing the person to not make such comments in the future. It may be ugly but it works.

[HFX7686]

It seems to me that the Report button has become the Dislike button around here.

It's getting tiring having every post that disagrees with the OP reported as "offensive" on these boards. It's becoming silly.

If you want to be "professional" and have "useful discussion" then stop trying to shut up people with disagree with you and post logical, clear reasons why they are wrong without resorting to Report.