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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkalinehoe View Post
    It really doesn't matter since leveling outside of abyssea is easy, we didn't need the refresh before, why suddenly now it's a huge deal? Not to mention most people go from 30->90 before gearing so it's a moot point about arguing about lower level gear. You don't need to have many options, think about W. Turban at 75, it was pretty much the best TP head in the game for years. Just one item, for many jobs. Best slot possible. So it's not like Wivre Hairpin being the best idle hat for mages is anything new.
    Refresh was always a huge deal, or have you forgotten back in the days of leveling before Abyssea how coveted it was by mages? And they're not going to balance the game around people that key mule their way to 90, that's a completely broken way of handling things.

    SE still wants people to level the traditional way, that's why they've made so many changes to the old world with FoV and the upcoming stuff. There are better items now than there were back in the day too, this is true, but nothing that I know of currently compares to this hat in the full level-range and it's silly to expect a single item to be that good and require zero time investment to obtain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisan View Post
    Refresh was always a huge deal, or have you forgotten back in the days of leveling before Abyssea how coveted it was by mages? And they're not going to balance the game around people that key mule their way to 90, that's a completely broken way of handling things.

    SE still wants people to level the traditional way, that's why they've made so many changes to the old world with FoV and the upcoming stuff. There are better items now than there were back in the day too, this is true, but nothing that I know of currently compares to this hat in the full level-range and it's silly to expect a single item to be that good and require zero time investment to obtain.
    Who are you to say that SE wants people to level the "traditional" way? I saw it more as a way to give an alternative for people who don't want to level inside Abyssea. If SE really wanted that, they would have never put such a low level for entering or at least corrected it by now. It's pretty obvious they want people to experience endgame faster instead of grinding levels.

    Yeah refresh was a huge deal, but if you are having MP troubles 1/tick in the head slot is not going to fix you. Best to learn how to make an HMP set and learn to use the /heal command if you decide to level outside.
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    I'm speaking in terms of game balance, I'm being sensible about this. Furthermore SE is speaking for itself here by not allowing it on jobs above level 30, that right there should tell you something. Also I'll add that the refresh on the hat will undoubtedly stack with the spell, which means it will stack with FoV Refresh. Which means you can get more than 1/tick even before RDM learns the spell itself.
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    1 MP a tick on a hat isn't going to ruin the game Krisan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juri_Licious View Post
    1 MP a tick on a hat isn't going to ruin the game Krisan.
    Carry on then. Obviously no one understands game balancing in this thread, or why the hat was capped at 30 to begin with. (Which conveniently coincides with them removing the exp penalty in the 1-30 range, it's considered the new 1-10 range by SE. Which makes perfect sense what with the level cap being higher now, but whatever.)
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    OH NOOOO 1 MP REFRESH WHICH YOU CAN GET ON A TRILLION OTHER PIECES INCLUDING AUGMENTED HAIRPINS WHICH CAN BE WORN BY ALL THE GAME BALANCE IS CRUMBLING, THIS IS THE END
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    Am I the only person who's pissed off by the fact that those who have supported FFXI for years and bought abyssea as soon as it was released individually is getting a big "fuck you"?

    I bought the expansions and got nothing. Now if some newbie あほcomes along and buys abyssea, he gets a refresh hat.

    Unless I've mis-interpreted this and we'll all get it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Am I the only person who's pissed off by the fact that those who have supported FFXI for years and bought abyssea as soon as it was released individually is getting a big "fuck you"?

    I bought the expansions and got nothing. Now if some newbie あほcomes along and buys abyssea, he gets a refresh hat.

    Unless I've mis-interpreted this and we'll all get it too.
    Considering I have movement+ on literally all of my jobs, have all the jobs I care about above level 30, have all of my skills capped, and have refresh headpieces for the applicable jobs I really could not care less about what basically amounts to losing 1 inventory slot for another costume item.

    It's a fluff item for starting players. No experienced player should really have much use for it anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisan View Post
    Carry on then. Obviously no one understands game balancing in this thread, or why the hat was capped at 30 to begin with. (Which conveniently coincides with them removing the exp penalty in the 1-30 range, it's considered the new 1-10 range by SE. Which makes perfect sense what with the level cap being higher now, but whatever.)
    game balance issue ? nah...but I agree with the rest.
    if they removed the latent effect with the same benefits, I bet my account, every single one and their mothers and pets will pay 20$ to have it lol .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhujerba View Post
    game balance issue ? nah...but I agree with the rest.
    if they removed the latent effect with the same benefits, I bet my account, every single one and their mothers and pets will pay 20$ to have it lol .
    $20 for +6 inventory when I only paid $10 for a token and +80 inventory last time? Naw, son.
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