So are they banning people on the brew holds?

[Cream_Soda]

are mad

I can't wait to see cheaters like you permanently banned.

Who was mad brah?

fap moar @ Galka

[Cream_Soda]

bragging about the cheats, the bots, the exploits they may as well call it shooting fish in a barrel.

Except the part where the developers said it was working as intended and not an exploit, lol

[Denabond]

All I'm gonna say is until people actually get banned from this, brew holds will still be done. I'm not gonna argue if its cheating or not, but i will say even if people cant brew hold, that doesn't change the fact that most people have enough cruor to buy maybe 10-15 brews. So really, it doesn't really matter if they can hold the brew or not.

[Tamoa]

How can anyone say brew holding is cheating when SE has said it is a known mechanic and by design? They have outright said "it is ok to brew hold at the moment, however we might change how this works in the future". How is that cheating? Is it cheating just because you don't like the fact that people do it?

[Runespider]

This thread is still going? Rep said it was fine, same way they said AB was fine and nobody got banned for it.

[Tamoa]

This thread is still going? Rep said it was fine, same way they said AB was fine and nobody got banned for it.

Exactly.

However, some people on here can't seem to get that fact through their thick skulls.
"OMG YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING SE HAS SAID IS OK, BUT I DON'T LIKE THAT YOU'RE DOING IT YOU CHEATER!!"

[Byrth]

SE makes the rules and chooses how to enforce them. They've said this is not against the rules. I don't understand why anyone would continue to discuss the "legality" of this.

If you're going to be against Brew-holding, you'd have to come at it from an "I'm against brewing in general" standpoint and work outwards.

[Greatguardian]

It pretty much comes down to people not bothering to read past the OP and then posting a reply. I absolutely cannot fathom anyone who had bothered to read past page 2 of this thread actually thinking Brew holding is "an exploit".

GMs did not say "We know about this and it's okay for now". GMs said "This is intentional."

[Dooom]

I absolutely cannot fathom anyone who had bothered to read past page 2 of this thread actually thinking Brew holding is "an exploit".

Nor can I understand how people continue to rage about it - or raged in the first place! I mean c'mon. It's a form of entertainment. None of it matters. And yet people rage about it to the extent they threaten violence, and insist their main reason for "playing" is some sort of moral victory! Moral victory over what? You want to run a moral crusade? There are infinitely better targets for it than this. "Yeah man I know the world is full of human rights abuses, corrupt governments, and all that bad jazz, BUT OMG THESE PEOPLE ARE PLAYING A VIDEO GAME IN A WAY I DO NOT AGREE WITH AND THIS IS WORTHY OF MY RAGE AND TIME!!!".

Grow up.

[Starcade]

So when is Square-Enix going to get it and understand that my presence in FFXI is probably:

"Threatening and does not contribute to the discussion."

Hey, Square-Enix... I've been banned from basically everything in this game but these forums and the game itself.

If the social nature of this game is THAT important to you that you are going to deliberately turn your back on fair play to keep "the customers" happy, then you have but one alternative: My removal from FFXI.

I will not "contribute to the discussion" of a playerbase hell-bent on the creation of a cheat-fest.

I would be far more "Threatening" in that concept than anything said here so far.

If you are that dead-set on allowing these people to run over your game, then you don't want me on it.