[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Starcade]

Where'd you get that data from? Your backside?

I think you'll find the casual noobs just cry louder and cry more for what they want. Most of the HNM fans didn't bother to post against a wall of ignorance. That was my downfall.

This (person you would consider because I don't cheat my patoot off) "casual noob" would rather see all "We Want Bots" Society of America (that is, most US HNM fans) to GTFO and go away!

(I have a better name for you, but I can't use it here!)

Is it really hard to understand that people don't want to farm Kindred Seals for 8 hours to pop a Fafnir, for the chance at popping a Nidhogg, King Behemoth or Aspidochelone?

Well...

Is it really hard to understand that people don't want to be outclaimed by bots and other illegal mechanisms and watch mobs pop purple for hours on end, with NO chance at popping a Nidhogg, King Behemoth or Aspidochelone?

[Karbuncle]

I keep hearing "Fight fafnir for a chance at nidhogg" when in the old days it was "Camp Fafnir for a chance at nidhogg, Oh, and also you might not claimlol, oh and you only can do it once a day."

I understand the skepticism behind this, But really if you step back and logically assess it without being upset, You might be able to see the silver lining . Just need to understand the big picture !

[viion]

The fact that is tradable is very nice, you could "buy" your way into BB then,

[Sasukeuchiha]

The fact that is tradable is very nice, you could "buy" your way into BB then,

You could buy a bb befor so i see no difference.

[Flunklesnarkin]

You could buy a bb befor so i see no difference.

difference being it will be easier to get triggers and there won't be a monopoly on the fights..

and you can actually do the fight yourself now

[Starcade]

difference being it will be easier to get triggers and there won't be a monopoly on the fights..

and you can actually do the fight yourself now

If you have a large enough HNMLS, I beg to differ on the monopoly end.

[Karbuncle]

If you have a large enough HNMLS, I beg to differ on the monopoly end.

Probably early on i think you're right, because theres going to be a lot of people after them. But i can't think of very many LS who'd orchestrate a large scale thing like that doing Multiple KSNM99's just to cock-block people.

Or a Large HNMLS that even exists :P

[Mirage]

HEY GUYS!

Including you guys at SE

Why can't the mobs both spawn like normal, and be poppable?

Leave the NMs in the game, let them spawn when they usually do, don't touch their drops or drop rates. In addition, add the system you're planning on, with no drop from NQ, reduced drop rates on HQ, etc.

Maybe make it so you can't manually pop them while there is already a timed-spawn version of it running around.

I don't even play monk or plan on doing so in a long time, so I neither know nor care how hard or easy it is to get a black belt. I just think it's cool that sometimes, really strong dragons and shit are roaming around in certain areas. So I kind of want to keep them around.

[Yugl]

Dear SE,

You PROMISED Fafnir would FLY into Dragon's Aery. What the hell is this fading-into-existence nonsense that I'm seeing? Do you think this is some sort of power point presentation where you can just hit on and off the fade-in animation? I for one am disappointed.

- By Yugl

[Flunklesnarkin]

HEY GUYS!

Including you guys at SE

Why can't the mobs both spawn like normal, and be poppable?

Leave the NMs in the game, let them spawn when they usually do, don't touch their drops or drop rates. In addition, add the system you're planning on, with no drop from NQ, reduced drop rates on HQ, etc.

Maybe make it so you can't manually pop them while there is already a timed-spawn version of it running around.

I don't even play monk or plan on doing so in a long time, so I neither know nor care how hard or easy it is to get a black belt, I just think it's cool that sometimes, really strong dragons and shit are roaming around in certain areas. So I kind of want to keep them around.

I don't understand how timed spawns are more beneficial than force pops..

I do wish the triggers were more common.. but if they were too common people would complain about that also

I can't think of any NM's in the game where multiple instances of them can be up at the same time... It would be nice to not have to wait for a ??? and see people fighting like 10 behemoths at once

I'm pretty sure if the game was capable of handling multiple of the same NM's up at the same time it would have been implemented already.

and having a time spawned / force pop system side by side would have way too many issues with the whole single NM up at a time system ffxi has