[Dev 1009] Force Pop HNM's FTW

[Flunklesnarkin]

I can live with buying NQ pops and farming a HQ one

Its just a minor annoyance having to go out and pop a HQ for somebody when you could just give them the trigger.

[Greatguardian]

Greatguardian is just trolling because he is not allowed on BG. Anyway, stock pile KS99 is all I can advice you all because we are back to "hard" game.

What the shit is this? Lol. You're the one banned from BG, not me.

Also, Wiki is total crap for determining the drop rates of something =/. How often do you see people reporting their drop rates? The Hills Are Alive's Drop% for Adamanoitse Egg is based off of only 111 samples. The NQ HNM Drop% for Adamantoise Egg is based off of even less, 105 samples.The people who report their drop rates also tend to be the outliers who have had either good streaks or bad streaks anyways, which will always skew the end result.

As for Rambus, yes I'm talking about the Aspid KSNM. Personally, I've not noticed any difference in drop rates between the 3 and it seems counter-intuitive to have different drop rates for BB items between the 3 KS99s anyways. Say "Nuh uhh" all you want, it doesn't change the fact that I have had a significantly different experience than yours, and that neither of our experiences can be said to be representative of the norm anyways.

[Kindra]

In the end though all this comes down to we don't know what the drop rates and such will be. So this argument ove #'s of seals and time and all that may not even be a factor. I think that we should all just wait and see what the drop rates and such will be then go about arguing over it all lol. I do think that this update has its up and downs. But the ups may out number the downs in the end.

Ups that I see : forced pop, only have to fight to trade the ???'s lol. But you are all right at least there is a better shot at getting the items then before .

Downs : (these depend on what the drops rates are) numbers of seals you have to go through to get to HQ and the drop rates of the pop items on NQ and BB items on HQ. If the drop rates aren't to bad then this won't be a factor at all

[Dazusu]

I can start gouging those HNMLS people who've been monopolizing these spawns

You didn't think that one through, did you? The HNMLS people who've bene monopolising these spawns for the best part of a decade already have all the drops they want from them. The only people you can try gouge are those who were too cheap to buy Black belt items, etc in the first place.

The "Making money from Kings" ship sailed years ago.

[RaenRyong]

People who enjoyed HNMs are in the extreme minority. It is time for that to be phased out entirely.

[Flunklesnarkin]

I wonder if they are going to eventually force pop tiamat / jormy

edit.. vrtra too ;o

[Greatguardian]

I wonder if they are going to eventually force pop tiamat / jormy

edit.. vrtra too ;o

Aren't at least 2/3 of those wandering up at all times anyways? Free Tiamats aren't even that rare any more either.

[Dale]

Amen.

HNM hunting on this game was by far the most boring stupid and retarded game play element, and it's about time it got changed. Wholeheartidly support this change and may Square Enix never ever again subject their players to such torture.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Aren't at least 2/3 of those wandering up at all times anyways? Free Tiamats aren't even that rare any more either.

Yah.. i've killed tiamat a few times randomly..

would be nice to farm up say a bunch of herald's gaiters or cashmere threads or mercurial poles at the same time

[Alhanelem]

I can't comprehend why anyone would complain about this. Basically, these NMs will appear a little more often, people can get what they need from them and then move on instead of having to camp them for weeks at a time, botting will be eradicated, and the whole experience will be a lot less stressful and more fun. Most people have tons of seals lying around doing nothing, and MNKs will have a better shot at their black belts. You can fight the NMs on your own time instead of wasting up to 3 hours or even more out of every day standing around doing nothing while you camp the NM.

Someone care to give me a logical, rational explanation as to why this ISN"T a good thing?

The NM pops are tradable, and the blackbelt items still drop from the KS99. As far as I can tell, everybody wins.