The official Dark Knight adjustment and suggestion topic.

[Afrohatch]

There's a lot of EVA gear for nearly every job.

What gear is there for Dread Spikes +2 AF body?

HP gear says hi

So in this thread we have people using defender as a reason WAR has more survivability over DRK which is quite absurd lol, DRK can wear PDT gear, can use the same atmas WAR uses, etcetc

And when has anyone relied on parry? It's pretty much still not understood after all these years, RNG has no native parrying skill but still parries almost as much as a NIN. Yeah, I agree, DRK having tactical parry seems like something SE just kind of tacked on randomly to DRK, but the added survivability from and E skill parry and an A skill parry would be negligible.

Basically, DRK really is not broken at all or needs to be fixed. Sure, it takes good gear to excel at it, which I'm hoping people making these suggestions are trying to do, but srsly, re-evaluate your playstyle before you jump the gun and scream for a job to be "fixed". Job fixing threads should be in the PLD and SCH forums, not the DRK.

[Urteil]

The argument was about defender being a very viable defensive ability, because of this it does have more survivability.

[Kagato]

Basically, DRK really is not broken at all or needs to be fixed. Sure, it takes good gear to excel at it, which I'm hoping people making these suggestions are trying to do, but srsly, re-evaluate your playstyle before you jump the gun and scream for a job to be "fixed". Job fixing threads should be in the PLD and SCH forums, not the DRK.

You basically just now proved you know nothing about DRK.

[Jar]

There's a lot of EVA gear for nearly every job.

What gear is there for Dread Spikes +2 AF body?

HP gear and haste gear .................................................................................................................... i sit with recast at 2min most the time and have 3500+ HP when i cast in abyssea... your telling me a mob does 2300+ damage to you in less than a min? fuck you melee nude too ? thers your problem with drk..

[Jar]

The argument was about defender being a very viable defensive ability, because of this it does have more survivability.

totally going to survive that thundaga IV coming at it with defender up ehh?

[Jar]

You basically just now proved you know nothing about DRK.

YOU know nothing about DRK...............

[Xsilver]

Drks have the better soloing power than war and sam, even though on harder hitting nms sam have a good pdt set, drk can still defend itself well with stuns drains etc. Also my dread spikes macro gives me 614 more hp +bale cuirass outside of abyss, a bit higher within. Inside of abyss drk is for sure is the weaker DD, but outside it is still a beast (but close to sam outside of emps). Since the next update will not be in abyss drk will be fine. Perhaps it is ok that drk not be as useful inside of abyss, certain jobs have always been more useful than others in different situations, but I def. dont like the idea of giving drks a crit hit ws just to be like everyone else.

[Afrohatch]

You basically just now proved you know nothing about DRK.

How do I prove I know something about DRK? Make *** thread after *** thread about how it needs to be fixed?

[Sedres]

The argument that war is more sturdy is from war not having to sacrifice any of its melee buffs for a better subjob. Our only real options for a survival subjob are nin and sam, nin offers nothing for DRK and Sam cripples our magic, taking away our own native albeit useless survival abilities.

Also, losing 2.3k HP in abyssea is ridiculously easy. And why make an argument that defender isn't going to save you from a magic nuke when dread spijes isn't going to do jack either? Anyway, that's enough attention wasted.

I think we should move away from this petty crap and start to develop the ideas we've come up with, make SE's life easier. For example, I don't agree that these stance ideas should hinder our magic or melee, instead they should buff one aspect of the job or another. These following ideas are simple off the top of my head, anyone complaining they'd make the job over powered should take their time to read the post for what it Is.

Stance 1 last resort based:
Shorten recast time OR increase duration (desperate blows stays at 30sec)
Atk regen to 100% tp or tp bonus (complement scythe/great sword respectively)

Stance 2 soul eater based: (doesn't require souleater active)
Gives quick cast to dark magic and shortened recast
Adds 10% mp to souleater along with 10% HP.

Etc.

[Afrohatch]

Also, losing 2.3k HP in abyssea is ridiculously easy. And why make an argument that defender isn't going to save you from a magic nuke when dread spijes isn't going to do jack either?

Stun, weapon bash, drain, drain 2, nether void, dread spikes

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Defender