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  1. #21
    Player rog's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    The game has a limit of 80 invo spaces, and 80 "other" spaces accessible at once last i heard not counting temp items.
    Including temp items actually. That is why you cannot see temp items while viewing your safe/satchel/etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Tokens are like condoms.

    You may have researched the Adblock pull-out method and tied it into the Firefox ovulation calendar, but shit can still happen. Security tokens are 99% effective at preventing pregnancy. It's not 100%, but nothing is. You can end up pregnant with a keylogger whether you practice Adblock pull-outs or use a Security token condom. Obviously this means condoms are a scam, right?
    Keeping your flash drive in its sheath is proven 100% effective - no Adblock pull-outs or Security token condom necessary.

    Don't do stupid shyt and it won't get jacked. It's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagian View Post
    Keeping your flash drive in its sheath is proven 100% effective - no Adblock pull-outs or Security token condom necessary.

    Don't do stupid shyt and it won't get jacked. It's that simple.
    Abstinence-Only FFXISex-Ed basically boils down to not playing FFXI. Which I do suppose is a fairly straightforward deterrent to getting hacked. You won't get your FFXI account hacked if you don't play FFXI. I agree entirely.
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    I will have my revenge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Abstinence-Only FFXISex-Ed basically boils down to not playing FFXI. Which I do suppose is a fairly straightforward deterrent to getting hacked. You won't get your FFXI account hacked if you don't play FFXI. I agree entirely.
    Now your just being obtuse. Don't give your pr0n-addicted brother your account details. Don't use hacks. Don't buy gil. Don't install warez. Don't do anything that will expose you.

    Unless the details are actually stolen from the provider, the only people who get details stolen... are people who allow their details to be stolen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyeriis View Post
    The security token is the only positive thing I got out of FFXIV >_>
    Scam? What is this...I don't even...
    I just wish they would fix the log in password saving for SE ID, mine doesn't get saved and I have to type it in every time, twice. Once for Playonline member password, then I have to type in my SE ID password, and then I have to use the security token and type that in as well. (Hmm, should I make a thread about this?)
    Agreed. SE, this >_>
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    Its sometimes best to agree to disagree ^_-
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    - You are asked to set your HP when you already have your HP set the place you exit. O.o?
    - You need to repeat a quest a 100 times in order to cap your fame >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagian View Post
    Now your just being obtuse. Don't give your pr0n-addicted brother your account details. Don't use hacks. Don't buy gil. Don't install warez. Don't do anything that will expose you.

    Unless the details are actually stolen from the provider, the only people who get details stolen... are people who allow their details to be stolen.
    Incorrect. You've apparently never heard of the account hijack method called "brute force".

    Someone picks the random string of four letters and four numbers that is your POL account name, and then uses their network of gilfarmer computers to try every possible password for it. They eventually get in and strip its contents, then use it for spamming.

    Happened to my wow account. After I hadn't played the game in over a year, I got a (legit) email from Blizz that my billing had been canceled.

    I went straight to worldofwarcraft.com myself (not following any links to get there), reset my password, and logged in. Someone had added a month, removed it, and (after I re-downloaded and patched my game I discovered) stripped my account. I always use different forum logins than I do game logins, every game login is different, haven't had a virus since 1995, use ff+noscript exclusively, etc.

    On top of that my account got locked because whoever added that month later did a chargeback on their CC. Not that I care, just saying it does happen. Security token prevents this.
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    Resident of Quetzalcoatl since 2003!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrid View Post
    Incorrect. You've apparently never heard of the account hijack method called "brute force".
    Yeah I explained this back on page 2, but it seems he didn't read it. SE locked my account awhile ago because someone tried to brute force hack it and I had to talk to them over the phone/tech support instant message (I used the instant message option) to reset my password. Afterwards, I had to login with the PW they gave me and reset it myself. I felt this was highly unnecessary as I have a token but someone still tried to hack into my account.

    It's a possibility that they would have gotten into my account if I didn't have a token, but it's hard to say. Tokens are a great way to increase the security on your account, especially if you have an account that would be considered valuable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrid View Post
    Incorrect. You've apparently never heard of the account hijack method called "brute force"...
    You've apparently never heard of 'strong' passwords. This is what I mean by user carelessness. If you use a weak password, you make yourself a target for brute force attacks.
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    You've apparently never heard that even "strong" passwords can be broken. However, when you have a combination of a strong password and a token you have much more security than a strong password. I'm not sure how there can be any discussion on this matter; you're arguing against the use of a device that more than doubles your security for the price of $10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagian View Post
    You've apparently never heard of 'strong' passwords. This is what I mean by user carelessness. If you use a weak password, you make yourself a target for brute force attacks.
    You can be as informed as you want, you're just pulling out smartly instead of wearing a damn tokencondom. Shit happens, no matter how strong your password is or how safely you browse. If you want to leave that to chance, it's your account. If you don't, it's $10 to add an extremely powerful second layer of security. I don't care what you do. But to say that tokens are useless if you're smart is just ignorant.
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    I will have my revenge!

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