The official Dark Knight adjustment and suggestion topic.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

[SIZE="5"]Top 10 Requests from Dark Knights[/SIZE]

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...justment-Topic

10. N/A

9. Strengthen or Parry Skill (4 votes)
-Having an Ability called "Tactical Parry" when we have a low Parry Skill isn't very effective.
-Many would prefer a minimum of a B- in Parry skill.

8) Melee while Casting (9 votes)
-A native trait to Dark Knights to allow us to still inflict Melee damage while casting a spell.

7. 2-Hour Ability Changes (11 votes)
-Make Blood Weapon last longer. Or...
-Change Blood Weapon to a 15-minute recast Job Ability and give us a new 2-hour ability completely.

6. "Stances" added to Dark Knight (17 votes)
-Easy to switch between stances.
-Magical Stance for more effective and stronger magical spells.
-Melee stance to deal more effective melee damage.

5. Shortened Dark Magic casting times. (19 votes)
-Preferred if this was a Dark Knight exclusive.
-Would give more use to casting Absorb Spells mid-battle.

4. Strengthened Job Abilities and Traits. (23 Votes)
-Adjustments to make Occult Acumen stronger by using more tiers of the trait based on level or change it to be affected by casting time instead of MP or Damage dealt.
-Changes to Souleater to be more useful to use full time rather than being completely situational and rare to use.

3. New, stronger Dark Magic Absorbs and Spells. (34 votes)
-Absord SPD (speed) is a popular request. Gives DRK Haste while giving the enemy Slow.
-Slower Decay on Absorbs is another popular request.
-New spells to inflict new enfeebles, such as Terrorize, Curse, Doom or Death.

2. Weapon Skill Changes (36 votes)
-New weapon skill entirely to deal Critical Damage and compete with other powerful weapon skills. Or...
-Changes to current Weapon Skills, such as Guillotine or Quietus, to deal critical damage or have stronger modifiers that DRKs normally use, with more focus on STR and DEX instead of INT and MND.

And currently, the #1 Request from Dark Knight players, with a total of 55 votes is:

Increase Duration of Last Resort.
Preferred Time: 2-3 Minutes
Some are willing to have Desperate Blows adjusted to achieve this if a balancing issue will arise.

Nothing like complainer DRKs complaining. A lot of the stuff in this thread are lies or half truths perpetuated by DRKs for DRKs. I mean realy. Every DRK I see is one shotting the same mobs that everyone else with these "more powerful" WS are only doing 20-80%. I've learned that most people simply need to re-evaluate their play style in this new age, finding thier own shortcomings instead of blaming nonbroken game balance. Also the post I quoted, all of the votes therein are biased examples.

[Jar]

Nothing like complainer DRKs complaining. A lot of the stuff in this thread are lies or half truths perpetuated by DRKs for DRKs. I mean realy. Every DRK I see is one shotting the same mobs that everyone else with these "more powerful" WS are only doing 20-80%. I've learned that most people simply need to re-evaluate their play style in this new age, finding thier own shortcomings instead of blaming nonbroken game balance. Also the post I quoted, all of the votes therein are biased examples.

^ This ^ 100%

[Urteil]

Nothing like complainer DRKs complaining. A lot of the stuff in this thread are lies or half truths perpetuated by DRKs for DRKs. I mean realy. Every DRK I see is one shotting the same mobs that everyone else with these "more powerful" WS are only doing 20-80%. I've learned that most people simply need to re-evaluate their play style in this new age, finding thier own shortcomings instead of blaming nonbroken game balance. Also the post I quoted, all of the votes therein are biased examples.

My response is Blue Mage. LOOK AT THEM.

Anyone can one shot a lot of mobs, trash mobs, EP, DC? Yea I can do that, I could do that with an Axe, with Guillotine, and I can with Lv.90 Caladbolg!

And your using Abyssea to make such a bold claim, when abyssea basically means "Oh I have a crit WS +60% more free damage please!" Nothing makes sense in Abyssea and if anyone with half a brain is using a Crit WS they are going to piss all over Torcleaver or anything DRK can bring to the table. All Torcleaver does is give me a huge step forward in being on the same damn board as far as damage is concerned, it definitely doesn't put me anywhere near I need to be considering the rest of the shit my job lacks:

Survivability
Utility
Self-Sufficiency


Anyone can one shot trash mobs, how is that even an argument?. . .


And even if the above is true, look at job like Dancer and Ninja that can solo things and tank, and be self sufficient. . .what can we do? Do lackluster damage and then subsequently die, because we have no defensive abilities of our own? Or damage that really makes up for a lack of survivability?

And when every Dark Knight thought they saw the end of the tunnel, the light that would give us some meaning and way to rise above it all, when we all thought "OH SHIT THIS CAN'T GET ANY WORSE". We got a Circle II ability and [DRUM ROLL] -

Tactical Parry. . . and you have the audacity and lack of common sense to say that our malady is that we suffer because of personal shortcomings, and can't use our job right?

. . . . Are you for fucking real?

And if you want people to take your argument about the removal of PS2 Limitations seriously, get rid of the stupid Prishe Chibi and post it in a manner that anyone over the age of 12 and who isn't a pedophile will take into consideration.

[RaenRyong]

Nothing like complainer DRKs complaining. A lot of the stuff in this thread are lies or half truths perpetuated by DRKs for DRKs. I mean realy. Every DRK I see is one shotting the same mobs that everyone else with these "more powerful" WS are only doing 20-80%. I've learned that most people simply need to re-evaluate their play style in this new age, finding thier own shortcomings instead of blaming nonbroken game balance. Also the post I quoted, all of the votes therein are biased examples.

Show me examples of good DRKs and I'll prove mathematically that they will get destroyed! I loved DRK and back at 75, it was simply an underdog - less appreciated than WAR and SAM but more than capable of pulling its weight. Nowadays though, it is simply terrible. I mean granted my other DDs are all excellent but my DRK isn't awful (capped Haste 5hit etc) and it still gets eaten alive.

[Jar]

My response is Blue Mage. LOOK AT THEM.

Anyone can one shot a lot of mobs, trash mobs, EP, DC? Yea I can do that, I could do that with an Axe, with Guillotine, and I can with Lv.90 Caladbolg!

And your using Abyssea to make such a bold claim, when abyssea basically means "Oh I have a crit WS +60% more free damage please!" Nothing makes sense in Abyssea and if anyone with half a brain is using a Crit WS they are going to piss all over Torcleaver or anything DRK can bring to the table. All Torcleaver does is give me a huge step forward in being on the same damn board as far as damage is concerned, it definitely doesn't put me anywhere near I need to be considering the rest of the shit my job lacks:

Survivability
Utility
Self-Sufficiency


Anyone can one shot trash mobs, how is that even an argument?. . .


And even if the above is true, look at job like Dancer and Ninja that can solo things and tank, and be self sufficient. . .what can we do? Do lackluster damage and then subsequently die, because we have no defensive abilities of our own? Or damage that really makes up for a lack of survivability?

And when every Dark Knight thought they saw the end of the tunnel, the light that would give us some meaning and way to rise above it all, when we all thought "OH SHIT THIS CAN'T GET ANY WORSE". We got a Circle II ability and [DRUM ROLL] -

Tactical Parry. . . and you have the audacity and lack of common sense to say that our malady is that we suffer because of personal shortcomings, and can't use our job right?

. . . . Are you for fucking real?

And if you want people to take your argument about the removal of PS2 Limitations seriously, get rid of the stupid Prishe Chibi and post it in a manner that anyone over the age of 12 and who isn't a pedophile will take into consideration.

No 2 handed DD other than drg/mage has very much survivability.. fuck war gets NOTHING but defender and that hardly does anything.....

you wana solo like a blu or nin fuckin level blu or nin.

[Kagato]

Nothing like complainer DRKs complaining. A lot of the stuff in this thread are lies or half truths perpetuated by DRKs for DRKs. I mean realy. Every DRK I see is one shotting the same mobs that everyone else with these "more powerful" WS are only doing 20-80%. I've learned that most people simply need to re-evaluate their play style in this new age, finding thier own shortcomings instead of blaming nonbroken game balance. Also the post I quoted, all of the votes therein are biased examples.

Yay! Another person who doesn't know anything about DRK. What a freaking surprise.

No. I don't want to hear about how your DRK is level 90 with super pro gear or that you claim you know how the game works, therefore your opinion is completely justified. I assure you, it's not.

Also, learn how to correctly use the word "bias" without turning into captain obvious. Voting for something is showing bias toward the thing you're voting for. So of course there's bias, just as you are showing bias toward being against DRK's requests.

^ This ^ 100%

That goes double for you, Mr. Twilight > Woeborn. *rolls eyes*


This is KillingIfrit.com all over again.

[Urteil]

No 2 handed DD other than drg/mage has very much survivability.. fuck war gets NOTHING but defender and that hardly does anything.....

you wana solo like a blu or nin fuckin level blu or nin.

War has defender a native ability to increase their survivability or berserk to raise/ lower offense as situations arise, and can then bolster their survivability with a sub job NIN BLU PLD whatever floats your boat, while having a native defensive ability.

Defender is +25% defense which can become absurd when paired with cocoon or other defensive abilities or food.

When did +25% become nothing? Are you unable to understand basic numerals in mathematical context?

Not to mention that Warrior has retaliate which gives them a HUGE benefit for just getting smacked and taking damage, where we have nothing magical or martial that can even hold a candle.


Samurai has amazing survivability with A- parrying, B+ evasion and Seigan/Third Eye NATIVELY to their job, which they can then use a sub job to bolster their survivability. You should probably go Wiki before you come in here with stupid.

There's only 4 two handed melee DD's really, DRK WAR SAM and DRG. All of which besides Dark Knight have added survivability natively.

[Kagato]

But let's not forget Dread Spikes!

Oh wait. Thats a spell that only lasts for 50/75% our total HP, has a horribly long casting time, has a horribly long recast time, has a horribly high MP cost, and is our ONLY native survival skill outside of drains, which suffer the same problems as Dread Spikes.

So...yeah. We have nothing compared to the rest.

Oh, and no one better bring up Apocalypse. Having a relic to assure even more survival that other jobs have natively is crazy.

[Jar]

War has defender a native ability to increase their survivability or berserk to raise/ lower offense as situations arise, and can then bolster their survivability with a sub job NIN BLU PLD whatever floats your boat, while having a native defensive ability.

Defender is +25% defense which can become absurd when paired with cocoon or other defensive abilities or food.

When did +25% become nothing? Are you unable to understand basic numerals in mathematical context?

Not to mention that Warrior has retaliate which gives them a HUGE benefit for just getting smacked and taking damage, where we have nothing magical or martial that can even hold a candle.


Samurai has amazing survivability with A- parrying, B+ evasion and Seigan/Third Eye NATIVELY to their job, which they can then use a sub job to bolster their survivability. You should probably go Wiki before you come in here with stupid.

There's only 4 two handed melee DD's really, DRK WAR SAM and DRG. All of which besides Dark Knight have added survivability natively.

i have SAM DRK and WAR and if im goingto solo i would 100% go as DRK.

dread spikes when gear correctly is way better than 3rd eye and seigan and defender what is this 2005? defense does almost nothing.....

and you think because they have b+ eva that they have EVA gear to support it? thfs and nin can get +100~ eva a sam is lucky to get +50 and parry never procs..

[Urteil]

There's a lot of EVA gear for nearly every job.

What gear is there for Dread Spikes +2 AF body? Its still 1 minute only at 75% hp which most mobs rip through quickly. Yea I switch to a full PDT set with Dread Spikes up if I'm getting beat on, but the recast kills it, the duration too.



VIT + DEF + PDT is an amazing thing.

Samurai has access to defensive skills and has high ranks in them, they also have some of the best PDT in the game, with Seigan / Third eye.

You're pants on head retarded bro.