Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Lilsanchez]

Hey that's life, aaand overtime that Lv90 newb will learn to play his/her job. They arnt going to bother you or ruin your gameplay. Most people have "common sense". I think this is a matter of jealousy... Why else would people waste their time getting angry over people who are playing their job up just fine.

Besides I think everyones here has burned a job up once or more.

[Madmax]

If someone has a burned job and they didn't bother skilling up along the way you'll know. And you won't party with them again. Who care's about the 30 cap. It's a dead issue. A smart player will burn a job, then spend hours upon hours capping their weapon and magic skills. When you see a 90 BLM that cant land a nuke on a level 60 mob dump em and get a skilled BLM. Big deal.

[Dubberrucky]

Besides I think everyones here has burned a job up once or more.

WRONG or it wouldn't even be a debate

[Dubberrucky]

Leeching is just as cheep a tactic as buying gil in my opinion. Jealousy is not a factor here regardless of what people in support of leeching think. Why would I be jealous of someone who rushed any game they paid their hard earned money for just to suck at the job they leeched? No, its silly to me but their choice and if aby level requirements are raised those silly people who do not want to play the first half of the game will just go back to smn burns for more exp than before thanks to updates so whats the problem? And yes despite what you may think leeched jobs more likely than not suck even on otherwise good players with very few exceptions. Several of even my friends who I used to be able to count on to be up to par now have worthless jobs thanks to feeling forced to aby burn or solo since a limited amount of people seek after 30. Aby leeching may not be the place it began but it definitely spread the problem like wildfire, at least on my server where smn burns were not common until our server merge last year.

[Cream_Soda]

Leeching is just as cheep a tactic as buying gil in my opinion.

You know what they say about opinions.

[Dubberrucky]

You know what they say about opinions.

That this thread is all opinion just like any other :P

[Cream_Soda]

Expecting people to fight a bunch of robber crabs, colibri, etc. is as cheap as buying gil in my opinion!

[Dubberrucky]

Expecting people to fight a bunch of robber crabs, colibri, etc. is as cheap as buying gil in my opinion!

Stretch much to prove a point that our opinions differ? lol but nice to see you again I hope you will bring me more laughable opinions today to amuse me

[Aliekber]

At the end of the day, SE's Abyssea sales webpage (and the description text in POL when you agree to terms to buy Abyssea) clearly states that level 30s can participate in Abyssea. Advertising that level 30s can enter and then increasing the level minimum after people have paid for the product (which we all have done) is a classic Bait and Switch. If they did that, they'd be legally exposed to truth-in-advertising lawsuits, not to mention I doubt it would take long for a breach-of-contract class action suit to form. And that's just in the US.

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/addon/ex8/index.html

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/addon/ex9/index.html

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/addon/ex10/index.html

Game. Set. Match.

[Nightstrike]

Expecting people to fight a bunch of robber crabs, colibri, etc. is as cheap as buying gil in my opinion!

and in my opinion that make's you lazy. lol
I have all 20 job's unlocked, the lvl range is vast, 30-78. And i enjoy leveling them the good'ol way. My drg is lv78, and i didn't use abyssea to level it, that was through party's and soloing. Iv been in 3 abyssea party's, only for merit's on my drg, and i can say this... it wasn't fun, it was boring. My major and really only problem with abyssea is the fact that it's taking away from party's else where in the game. I like working hard and keeping my skills caped to my lvl as much as possible. But I'm also saddened that all these player's are forgoing the rest of the game, FF11's game world is slowly being turned into abyssea only, and the developer's hard work on the other area's is going to waist because of it. And what's worse is that many time's in party's iv had, someone would get tells from people they don't know in abyssea wanting them to come... i mean, first off how do they even know they're real lvl? we're synced under lv30.