Ninja merits, job traits and abilitys

[wish12oz]

I'm not a NIN but the way I see the merits laid out seems to indicate that you pick one or two elements and cap them out. Go 5/5 Hyoton (ice one) damage and 5/5 Hyoton: San, you now have a potent fast casting free nuke that can be thrown out whenever possible, similar to COR's quick draw. Sange is an interesting one, especially after NIN's AFv3 that gives you more shadows. If your not immediately tanking the monster you can toss our a pretty big chunk of damage.

It doesn't actually toss out a pretty chunk of damage, you actually lose damage using it, since it does less then meleeing and then also have to recast shadows you would of otherwise had, losing even more attack rounds/TP.

[Akujima]

I fail to see the problem here, if you don't like it, go play a different job.

This seems to be your only defense, but is totally absurd, because you give no explanation as to why Ninja should lose Elemental Ninjutsu AND Throwing merits altogether, other than "I don't like it". Well guess what, if you don't like it, you play another job...

It doesn't actually toss out a pretty chunk of damage, you actually lose damage using it, since it does less then meleeing and then also have to recast shadows you would of otherwise had, losing even more attack rounds/TP.

Have you even tested it out? Do you even have proper INT/Ninjutsu gear, or Ratk/Racc gear? The proper Merits in place? Run the numbers? Because I have, and have done more Dmg in Abyss with Sange throwing Manji shuriken (Lv48 ammo) than most other's WS's. Not to mention the TP it gives you for landing 5 hits. Wow great you lose your shadows.

But your solution to the problem seems to be to completely remove something entirely rather than improve upon it. It's fine though, I doubt SE will actually listen, because if Ninja loses Elemental Ninjutsu or Throwing, you might as well call it "Bladedancer" or "Assassin" and just forget that this is a Final Fantasy game.

Btw, Ninja never had "Throwing" in any previous FF installment... right?

[wish12oz]

This seems to be your only defense, but is totally absurd, because you give no explanation as to why Ninja should lose Elemental Ninjutsu AND Throwing merits altogether, other than "I don't like it". Well guess what, if you don't like it, you play another job...

My reason is that it's lower damage to throw and cast things, and also more expensive. Why you would want to lower your parse and waste gil at the same time I will never understand.

Have you even tested it out? Do you even have proper INT/Ninjutsu gear, or Ratk/Racc gear? The proper Merits in place? Run the numbers? Because I have, and have done more Dmg in Abyss with Sange throwing Manji shuriken (Lv48 ammo) than most other's WS's. Not to mention the TP it gives you for landing 5 hits. Wow great you lose your shadows.

But your solution to the problem seems to be to completely remove something entirely rather than improve upon it. It's fine though, I doubt SE will actually listen, because if Ninja loses Elemental Ninjutsu or Throwing, you might as well call it "Bladedancer" or "Assassin" and just forget that this is a Final Fantasy game.

Btw, Ninja never had "Throwing" in any previous FF installment... right?

Throwing and elemental ninjutsu are fine as they are, low level damage output, making them better would make them way to good early in the game. A smart player on a low lvl ninja can outparse every other job at low levels, increasing the damage they could do would be broken.
I would also like to direct you here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post60431

EDIT: and who gives a crap about what ninja did in a different game?

[Akujima]

EDIT: and who gives a crap about what ninja did in a different game?

People with personality and character?

[wish12oz]

People with personality and character?

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