A New WS Trial for PUP?

[Dohati]

or... (just thought of this) instead of new WSs, they could just give PUP a job trait like around lvl 80~99 to boost automaton WS dmg. that way the balance for maneuvers would stay the same. with this route though... bone crusher would really need a serious upgrade. it would still suck compared to armor piercer by far.

[Orenwald]

I think the pets should get new WSs. Every job has like 8, and each automaton (barring Valorsuck) has 3... It's sadpanda

[Lushipur]

new auto ws and an elemental ws for the master..

[xiozen]

Yeah, I always figured valoredge, being the melee automaton, would be my favorite by 75, but it turned out being my red-feathered steppuppet. It really needs a decent weaponskill to make it worth using. If it was sturdy enough to work as a real tank in spite of being unable to be cured by white magic, it would be different; since it doesn't work all that well as a tank though, it really needs a power boost. On that same note, ever since magic mortar was nerfed, mage puppets have a really crappy "ultimate" weaponskill too. I use the inhibitor just to force them to use knockout after I weaponskill. The only problem with that though... those new weaponskills would take priority over the last high-skill ones, and would be using a different element of maneuver. That could be a problem for some PUPs. On my valoredge I normally use wind and light maneuvers for auto-repair(s) and turbo charger, but if they gave valoredge a new weaponskill (that wasn't tied to wind maneuver), it would still use crappy ol' bone crusher. Therefore, with the addition of new automaton weaponskills, they should make it possible to change your frames' weaponskill priorities or which maneuver is tied to which weaponskill at the automaton workshop or something, maybe after a quest or questline, similar to how you can tell your NPC fellow not to use AoE weaponskills.

Have you tried Burattinaios + Bone Crusher?

[Allerum]

They Should just make Empyrean puppets. Head and Bodies as a set so as to not make us find too many items or separately and reduced abyssea items. No +1 though, just straight up emp.

[Naoane]

Empyrean puppets.. actually sounds like a good idea to me. Granted, it'd be slightly difficult to implement, and they'd have to make some pretty crazy things to make it worth it, but these are the kind of ideas that I like to hear!

Maybe a supped up harle frame, or just something else entirely. Of course it'd need to have some AI improvements.. else it'd just be another auto that can act erratic on us sometimes.

[Jackastheripper]

We have a WHM, BLM, PLD, RNG, and mixed frame, how about a straight DD frame like a H2H or duel wield frame?

[Dohati]

We have a WHM, BLM, PLD, RNG, and mixed frame, how about a straight DD frame like a H2H or duel wield frame?

valoredge is hardly a pld :/ more like a sword/shield war.

[Dohati]

Have you tried Burattinaios + Bone Crusher?

no. i'm having a lot of trouble obtaining burattinaios, so i don't have them. even if i did, that doesn't make bone crusher a strong WS. you could just use sharpshot with burattinaios. it's not like puppet deaths matter much anymore. long live deus ex automata.

[Karbuncle]

I honestly wouldn't mind the idea of Doing Magian trials or something to that effect to "+1" our current frames.

by +1 i mean it would simply up their base stats a bit, and Increase their threshold for Attachments.

A Quested Puppet Weaponskill would also be fun. Could even name them after their Frame. "Valor Edge", "Sharp-shot", and "Spirit Weave"..

Valor Edge could be a multi-hit crit WS that increase automatons Accuracy/Attack a short time (Aftermath!)

Sharp Shot could be a powerful range WS that increases automatons R.acc/R.atk a Short time

Spirit Weave could recover Auto-s HP/MP by ~50%, and increases its Macc/Matk/Curepotency for a short time

Then again, I'm not really a great Puppet, These are just spit-balled ideas.