What's With the No Future Expansion or Addons?

[Karbuncle]

I think it'll happen, too. The last Timeline had a definitive content endpoint in Heroes of Abyssea. I can't be the only one who did not see a 'definitive' endpoint in the most recent timeline. This current one feels like a short outline of an intermission. I don't believe that SE will usher in the (likely) final level cap increase with a whimper. They'll probably do it with a bang: something like a new expansion. It'll probably be split into several pieces as in the Abyssea 'expansion' model, though.

I wouldn't mind if it was split like the Abyssea Expansion. as long as it was large enough upon completion. If you look at RoTZ/ToAU/CoP they added large amounts of areas. WoTG... Just rehashed em, had 3 new zones though.

If we got another ~3 Add-ons that each unlocked Parts of the Far-East (i'd prefer Mithran Homeland myself though), Then I'd buy it, As long as it had multiple zones to explore, and a new "City".

There is so much potential behind Vana'diel, So many unexplored worlds, etc. We only hope they dig into those unexplored areas.

Truthfully, I think a big wet-dream for a lot of people is also Visiting Tavnazia, Give us an Add-On that takes us to Old-Tavnazia and i would Sh*t a Brick. Thats the biggest GD cocktease in the ENTIRE game. Its this Huge part of the Opening Movie, hell, it IS the opening movie, Then we get cockteased with visiting Tavnazia in CoP, only to get this scrawny ass Stronghold, and then a further cocktease is being able to actually SEE Tavnazia in Lu'faise Meadows.

I think they said one of the Aquaducts Connects to Tavnazia, Its how a lot of people Escaped. You could make a Zone in the Aquaducts that leads to the Plains right out-side Tavnazia. This area could have just more Gigas/Orcs/etc for the "feel" of it.

Inside Tavnazia could just be a huge Zone, the Ruins of Tavnazia, HNMs there writes itself, the Orc Commander who led the assault on Tavnazia(this could even have STORYLINE to it), the Gigas General Beastmaster who Tamed the Behemoth's (a BST Gigas who has a Behemoth Pet), etc. These things WRITE themselves. An Orcish Warmachine the size of Campaign ones.

Each one could be an Add-on Like Abyssea. give us access to Tavnazia's base/Outside fields in the First one, The Second Expansion could give us Access to the Upper Levels (the huge building up top the mountain could easily house the Orc Commander HNM), etc. A third one could be "Closure" for it all.

So Lookie there, They don't even have to give us a New Continent, give us Tavnazia, and i bet 99% of us will be happy. lol


Edit:

Pretty sure they'll give us Conquest Point Brews for 20 points.

... Wat? I hope thats a MT you meant to put in that "give us CP brews" and not just negative Sarcasm.

[Seriha]

Karb, I understand where you're coming from, but I'll just say that a lot of that isn't exclusive to an expansion. New enemies could be added to existing areas with quests explaining their sudden appearance. Current areas could also be altered literally to reflect some kind of influence. I know it might worsen the tease, but NPCs could also go on to further explain areas people clamor for just to help placate some.

Overall, I'm not against a new expansion or more add-ons. I'm just against it being a ho-hum, incomplete release like we saw with the earlier big three and needing a year or more to 'finish' when we already dropped our $50 on top of monthly fees. Most everything the concept of an expansion offers can be done individually. I just get the feeling it's somewhat under-appreciated without SE slapping a pretty bow on it with a sub-name like WotG, ToAU, etc..

[Karbuncle]

Karb, I understand where you're coming from, but I'll just say that a lot of that isn't exclusive to an expansion. New enemies could be added to existing areas with quests explaining their sudden appearance. Current areas could also be altered literally to reflect some kind of influence. I know it might worsen the tease, but NPCs could also go on to further explain areas people clamor for just to help placate some.

Overall, I'm not against a new expansion or more add-ons. I'm just against it being a ho-hum, incomplete release like we saw with the earlier big three and needing a year or more to 'finish' when we already dropped our $50 on top of monthly fees. Most everything the concept of an expansion offers can be done individually. I just get the feeling it's somewhat under-appreciated without SE slapping a pretty bow on it with a sub-name like WotG, ToAU, etc..

Maybe i should Reword my thoughts to be more clear. :x

I want to explore the Mithran Homeland, And i want to Explore the Far east. The "New monsters/jobs" Just were an Addendum to the fact these new zones should have new wonders.

It really just is not the same feeling see a new monster if its rotting in North Gustaberg or Rangemount pass, as opposed to how it was seeing Imps/Colibri in Caedarva Mire, a new zone, and a new mob. I mean its like seeing Ruszor in Beauc(S), Sure its neat, but its still less exciting. Same can be said for Gargouilles, they're nice to the scenery but its just not the same when its in the same spot you've been too 1000 times.

I'm sorry if I'm being confusing, But the gist of my, and i think the majority of the peoples feelings in this thread are...

We want to go to and Explore all those Wonderful places we keep getting repeatedly teased about in Cutscenes, Opening Movies, Quests, and Armor/Furnishing Descriptions.


Edit: Oh and trust me, None of us want a half-arsed Released Expansion. But I would gladly take a Incomplete Expansion that gives us Access to Tavnazia, or Mithran Homeworld, as opposed to a Complete "Add-on" that just rehashes the same watered-down over-played zones :\. << this Opinion, However, Might not reflect the Opinions of others in this thread, thats just my own.

[Zumi]

SE is not going to be able to have a larger then 10gb Partition for FFXI on PS2 unless they get some kind of fix from Sony, that rewrites the way PS2's HDD filesystem works. Since 10 gb is the max size that the PS2 will read. It's not like they can go in and just make the partition bigger like they could on PC.

So SE is going to run out of room eventually on PS2, limiting content by a lot. If they do hit a brick wall in terms of space either that have to work with Sony on a work around. Stop new content updates on the PS2 or may be time for the game to end.

[Glamdring]

If they were going to why would they not tell us? They don't even say they have any more "abyssea style addons" to give us in the future, if they do have such things coming they should put out a teaser now while a lot have returned and are slowly getting bored of Abyssea. I like the roadmap but they really do need to state if they have any plans for any kind of expansions/addons now before people lose intrest again.

Right now it looks like there will be no more expansions ever and no addons either, if there were there would be no reason not to say so. It's not hard to say "we do have plans to release more expansions/addons in the future" to keep intrest there.

Noone has said this is it, this is all you get. It's entirely possible that they are still brainstorming, or doing feasability study or the like. Maybe they actually started the forum in hopes of inspiration of a new add-on? In that vein, allow me to propose 90-99, a trip back in time to... the Kuluu/Zilart conflict! See: tonberry's before they all turned into Mr. Yuck! Watch Kamlanaut get his 1st face tattoo! Bahamut without such a bad disposition!

[Glamdring]

SE is not going to be able to have a larger then 10gb Partition for FFXI on PS2 unless they get some kind of fix from Sony, that rewrites the way PS2's HDD filesystem works. Since 10 gb is the max size that the PS2 will read. It's not like they can go in and just make the partition bigger like they could on PC.

So SE is going to run out of room eventually on PS2, limiting content by a lot. If they do hit a brick wall in terms of space either that have to work with Sony on a work around. Stop new content updates on the PS2 or may be time for the game to end.

Um... they could just not release the next update on the PS2 and see how long it takes PS2 players to take the hint that their gear is well past the point of an AARP membership for consoles. I loved my Atari system back in the day, but there came a day I wanted something more challenging than Ms. Pacman. Of course, instead of getting a new console I discoverred that I liked girls and they liked me, so I left off gaming for about... 16 years.

[Luvbunny]

Hah, why not just remaster the game and release it on HD for PS3 and Xbox (again) and add the new expansion as the bait. This way it will solve the PS2 problem, and it will generate another wave of cash infusion from PS2 + Xbox + PC players. Let's face it, FF14 is crashing and burning pretty fast... why not regenerate interest from FFXI cash cow.

[Ethereal]

I don't see any real difference between adding downloadable content for a fee VS creating content for PC/other capable platforms only.

One could easily say "I can't afford 15 bucks for the expansion just the same as saying I don't own any other system because i can't afford it".

Creating a new full expansion for "PC xbox/ps3" would leave ps2 people out of new content, BUT that would be the same for people that currently can't afford a few extra bucks for the downloads that already exist, they too would already be left out of content.

You get what your willing or capable to pay for.

[Olor]

People who say that there is not enough players to justify an expansion... could you explain how sony could put out an expansion for EQ1 which has way less players?

[Flunklesnarkin]

I don't think the old dev team had a plan for the game after wings of the goddess

hopefully the new dev team can come up with some new storylines...

but like others have said.. the only way that would be possible is to either not release the new expansion to ps2... or get sony to modify the playstation.. which i find unlikely...

Reskinning zones is ok... but it shouldn't be the *only* development tactic.