The official Dark Knight adjustment and suggestion topic.

[Quetzacoatl]

You guys do know that from a Melee damage standpoint DRK is one of the top DD in and outside of abyssea?

the only difference in damage between us and a war is WAR has better weaponskills (not empy) and they ONLY win inside abyssea with RR taking affect..

we dont need fukin berserk to cap PDIF.. and giving us super last resort would make us so overpowered....

If you want to keep up in abyssea on DRK you need to get one of the empy weaponskills.. just like to be a good WAR you need Ukko's and a good sam has Fudo.......... the WoE version even..

Stop askign for some crit weaponskill to be handed to you and go work and get a good weaponskill yourself..

a test that was made here says otherwise about DRK being ahead in melee damage. There's no way to put it, we need a buff badly.

[Siiri]

Drk needs an empy weapon to stay equal with generic wars and mnks. The melee spreadsheet on another forum put drk 40% behind war in damage, both using empy weapons for comparison. You are fooling yourself if you think drk is anywhere equal. I hope enough info is being put out on forums. One of the longest job threads on the Japanese side is "do something about drk its obsolete, or similar to that.

[Jar]

a test that was made here says otherwise about DRK being ahead in melee damage. There's no way to put it, we need a buff badly.

ill go with my Hundreds of parses over whatever they tested this with......................

[Kagato]

Lmao....

Rich.

[Jar]

Lmao....

Rich.

When you put ANYTHING that isnt just what your childish ass wants on here than you can laugh.. Also Ignore me agian

[Kagato]

a test that was made here says otherwise about DRK being ahead in melee damage. There's no way to put it, we need a buff badly.

Never seen that program before. I'll have to mess with it a bit.

[Sedres]

Your own signature springs to mind, Jar. Do you have/have you already posted your own evidence to support your argument? Seeing as DRK was my first 75 (back in the day), I have to agree with everyone else who says DRK is in need of some adjustment love. We haven't received anything worth while, anything that's made a drastic improvement to the job since the 2h update, and even that back seated us to a lot of other 2h jobs.

[Jar]

Your own signature springs to mind, Jar. Do you have/have you already posted your own evidence to support your argument? Seeing as DRK was my first 75 (back in the day), I have to agree with everyone else who says DRK is in need of some adjustment love. We haven't received anything worth while, anything that's made a drastic improvement to the job since the 2h update, and even that back seated us to a lot of other 2h jobs.

Do you even have any other 2handed jobs leveled? anything that doesnt have a crit weaponskill is behind but asking for one is like asking for an empy weaponskill to be handed to us.

I have hours of parses on WAR SAM and DRK with very small gear differences that say DRK and SAM are about equal in all aspects(DRK alot more melee damage while sam tips to weaponskill damage) while war has about the same melee damage but way stronger weaponskills(ONLY inside abyssea).

I didnt use empy weaponskills or anything to test but from what i see DRK is not THAT far behind WAR and the only shortcoming atm is the crit weaponskill.

from this it seems obvius that DRK would need a crit weaponskill to DD like a WAR can but i dont think that should just be handed to us maybe making insurgency crit but im not even sure that wouldn't be above our current empy weaponskils inside abyssea.

[Rezeak]

Hmm from a melee standpoint i would of thought NIN and DNC then MNK would be up better than DRK

With NIN and DNC there can have a much larger overall delay reduction with both dual weild and haste i think DNC and NIN can excess 50% delay reduction overall meaning they attack at over double speed (without buffs).

With MNK I'd guess it was the top melee pple saw this coming with there larger dmg weapons with there base dmg also being increased by skill and also the cobination of martial arts and haste just making it crazy.

With WAR DRK and SAM i dunno really i mean DRK should beat SAM because of the higher DPS weapons and a much better af3+2 set bonus as for WAR vs DRK i dunno i would of guessed it would of been close since the jobs are both very similar WAR getting more double attack DRK getting Souleater and last resort haste ofc i see WARs drop off the melee vs DRK because alot of time they sub NIN and so they spend alot of time casting shadows.

Either way i'm not gonna call it but i would of thought NIN was the top melee cause of the higher amount of delay reduction it can hit solo if not then MNK.

Though it is worth noting that twilight scythe makes us the best melee DD on alot of mobs becuase of it's dmg type.

[Jar]

Hmm from a melee standpoint i would of thought NIN and DNC then MNK would be up better than DRK

With NIN and DNC there can have a much larger overall delay reduction with both dual weild and haste i think DNC and NIN can excess 50% delay reduction overall meaning they attack at over double speed (without buffs).

With MNK I'd guess it was the top melee pple saw this coming with there larger dmg weapons with there base dmg also being increased by skill and also the cobination of martial arts and haste just making it crazy.

With WAR DRK and SAM i dunno really i mean DRK should beat SAM because of the higher DPS weapons and a much better af3+2 set bonus as for WAR vs DRK i dunno i would of guessed it would of been close since the jobs are both very similar WAR getting more double attack DRK getting Souleater and last resort haste ofc i see WARs drop off the melee vs DRK because alot of time they sub NIN and so they spend alot of time casting shadows.

Either way i'm not gonna call it but i would of thought NIN was the top melee cause of the higher amount of delay reduction it can hit solo.

Though it is worth noting that twilight scythe makes us the best melee DD on alot of mobs becuase of it's dmg type.

I dont have nin or MNK to test but my nin friend most the time is a little above my DRK in melee but far below in weaponskill because a 2hander for the most part gets TP a lot faster.