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  1. #11
    Player Gwydion's Avatar
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    I agree.

    Everyone I asked would definitely enjoy sortie more if it was 30 minutes instead of an hour. Maybe SE can double gallimaufry but without changing the maximum?

    This gives folks the opportunity to leave after 30 minutes without feeling guilty....

    Just something to think about it....I would still do Sortie daily from 4/week to 6/week ....but I would get back 30 minutes of my life each day. I would use the 30 minute savings to make healthier choices and exercise.
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  2. #12
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Making the event itself shorter would likely require a significant redesign, especially for less well prepared players to do it and get anything out of it, so I think it would be better to just make it not an every day event, and get more muffins per run.
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    They just need to treat it like Dyna D and reduce how often people can go into it, while boosting the rewards.
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    I think the best solution would be to simply double the rewards and have the re-entry cool down for Sortie be 40 hours instead of 20 hours. That way, people can take at least a day off and do it every other day. I do 8 Boss Sorties or Aminons every day on top of attending an tri-weekly odyssey static, Linkshell Omens, and Linkshell Dynamis Divergence which all of that combined together sometimes feels like a second job and it is a bit too time consuming.

    I don't believe it's a good idea to reduce the amount of time within Sortie because it wouldn't render players enough time to complete what are now standard 8-9 boss Sortie runs.. Even Aminon runs can take a new groups the entire hour to clear it, so it's important that the entire hour always remains available for newer groups to comfortably practice the boss. However, reducing the amount of times you go in per week, but still earning the same amount of gaullimauphy as you would the way Sortie is currently set up daily would make Sortie a bit more reasonable for players to keep up with while balancing real life obligations. Heck, I would even say a 60 hour time out with triple the gaullimauphry would be an even healthier quality of life change, but the only downside to entering every three days is that players won't get as many oppurtunities to practice and learn Sortie quite as frequently which is pretty critical to being able to eventually work up to 8-9 Boss runs.
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  5. #15
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    No one forces anyone to do sortie daily, that is freedom of choice. It is mostly do to the Fear Of Missing Out (FOMO), which is why many do sortie daily.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoiceMemo View Post
    No one forces anyone to do sortie daily, that is freedom of choice. It is mostly do to the Fear Of Missing Out (FOMO), which is why many do sortie daily.
    Yeah wel "tehcnically" no one is forced to, but FOMO is powerful, and people see every day they don't do it as lost progress towards a prime weapon. Where's the harm in making it a less frequent event while still accomplishing goals in the same amount of time? There's so much more of the game to enjoy, I don't think it's unreasonable to lower the pressure on players to do it constantly when there are so many other things to do as well.
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    Because this content is so difficult, it requires a static friend group of players. Not everyone can do this every day and so the static will end up falling apart when 1 or 2 people leave, this hurts everyone because now the most driven players can't replace those people and will quit and they will fall behind and get demoralized.

    It's fine to allow players to have lots of access to certain content that is fairly easy (like ambuscade) or solo, but not really difficult and time consuming content that requires a static.

    I know lots of people who have stopped playing XI over Sortie specifically.

    Either double rewards and allow people to enter half as much or just allow players to buy a ring with their entry on off days, that when used doubles the reward when they do. This way if someone in the static wants to watch a movie tonight, everyone can get the ring and nobody is made to feel bad cause they double up the next day.
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    Personally, rather than FOMO, some felt contents like this more intimidating, only those who already has better gears would enjoy. There's also the example of personal worries whether tried solo for at least getting some gallies, or wait for opportunities to group up for better payout.

    That said, there's still plethora's of content to enjoy, hence up to now doesn't see reasons for a change, but I might be wrong. One thing personally felt could be a bit eased, is the amount of grind needed to get final step of prime weapon. From what I gather, a single weapon would take at least half year average to finish, which imo kinda brutal, & that's probably mostly (and again) for those with better geared, which left rest of more casual players taking way longer, if they even planned to finish one. I personally took quick pick of mine prime weapon way back then (which is the dagger), only to able to finish TVR story, though I might kinda regret my choice, especially after finding the amount of grinds required & the prospect of end result might not be as enticing as I expect.
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    SE Logic has said they don't want to make ultimate weapons because they don't want players to "feel like they HAVE to make them" ...but let's face it, many players FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO SORTIE 5-7 days/week.

    My group would be happier if we could store 3 KIs and get ~56k (8-boss amount) gallimaufry in 30 minutes vs 60 minutes.

    Bonus points if we could save KIs and do 3-4 runs in a day.

    There we go, no more burnout. People keep playing and enjoying the grind.

    Also, please please, no more 25% time charges via Ruspix Plate or Dynamis-D Empty Hourglass. No one feels like they're getting ahead with 1/5th recharge rate. The extra KI that is built from this is almost exclusively used as a one-off.
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    The fix that is most likely to be done is the one that take the least amount of dev time.

    The easiest fix it to just allow players to buy a special Galli Boost ring with 2 entries (1 in debt so you are locked out for 2 days), and when you enter Sortie next you then get 3x the Galli.

    So get the ring on mon, locked out till wed and when you enter you use the ring to get 3x the gali.

    Players that still want to do it every day can do so, people who want to do it less and not be left behind can do that by getting the ring. People who have a static, and the member can only do it twice a week can do Sortie with them and still do single runs with others on off days.
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