I think everyone has got this all wrong, Sortie entry needs to be every second.

[Tehant]

Listen, no one in their right mind should ever think that sortie should be a limited type thing. It should be something we can enter as many times as we like. It should also be done with an alliance more importantly so we wouldn't feel so left out of things. Anyone who doesn't do sortie feels the needs to talk about how else to limit things that involve time consuming things. They really shouldn't be here period. The benefits to going any time we like and as an alliance possibly with a matchmaker would make things interesting a fun and less dependent on improper fractions. I don't care if you're the best. I just think we should become as interesting as interesting gets. Allowing players who aren't genuinely great at the game the opportunity to compete with whoever spends their time doing one thing more than another should have this opportunity to prove ones great. Without the restrictions of one server. Time limit. What time limit? There shouldn't be one. Period.

[Alhanelem]

No. And I'll tell you why.

People already feel stressed doing this content daily, since it takes a whole hour of your time (well, unless you mess it up really badly anyway). If you let people do it as much as they want, people will just start automating it, not caring too much about the individual outcomes because they can just go right back in. This will create bigger and bigger gaps between the no lifers / botters and everyone else.

If anything, the frequency of Sortie should be restricted further, while increasing the rewards proportionally, so we can get the same amount of muffins over time without having to spend 7-8 hours a week just on Sortie alone to get optimal results. Instead of asking people to work their butts off as hard as possible for as long as possible to be competitive, why not just reduce the burden on everyone?

[radar]

Hardcore mmorpg players have little self control, if you let them to it constantly they will try to do it constantly till they burn out and stop playing.

It's not so bad if it's solo, but since it requires a group it impacts other people in the group who are then pressured to do it 7 days a week and this is what is causing a lot of the problems. This is currently one of the biggest problems with the game imo, they need to put lower limits on how many times you can enter per week. Max of 4 a week, and increase rewards to offset the lower number of entries.

Especially if they are adding new endgame content now.

[Fahzewn]

Hardcore mmorpg players have little self control, if you let them to it constantly they will try to do it constantly till they burn out and stop playing.

Sounds like a player problem, not a game problem. That said, forcing "self-control" on those who don't want it doesn't sound like a good idea either.

Play once a day...or don't. Play the full 60 minutes...or don't.

[radar]

If you could do something 4 times a week and get the same reward as doing it 7 days a week, and it requires a static why would you want to do it 7 days a week? If one person in your static burns out, you can't do runs now until you can replace them and that's bad for everyone.

[Alhanelem]

Sounds like a player problem, not a game problem. That said, forcing "self-control" on those who don't want it doesn't sound like a good idea either.

Play once a day...or don't. Play the full 60 minutes...or don't.

Most MMOs have limits like this specifically to discourage unhealthy play, and to limit how much of an advantage people can get from going down that path. SE does have some responsibility to keep people from ruining their own lives, which is why the game has that warning every time you launch the game.

It's better for everyone if you can do it less often for the same rate of overall progress. Even if you are playing all the time, it means you can enjoy more of the game's content instead of spending all of every play session on just one thing.

[Tehant]

Everything you all said makes no sense but to anyone but yourselves. Please do not comment your oppinion on something that actually matters to everyone else but yourself. You probably don't even sortie and just bot at the colibri camp and feel like this is self control.

[Fahzewn]

Everything you all said makes no sense but to anyone but yourselves. Please do not comment your oppinion on something that actually matters to everyone else but yourself. You probably don't even sortie and just bot at the colibri camp and feel like this is self control.

Pot, meet kettle...

[Fahzewn]

Most MMOs have limits like this specifically to discourage unhealthy play, and to limit how much of an advantage people can get from going down that path. SE does have some responsibility to keep people from ruining their own lives, which is why the game has that warning every time you launch the game.

It's better for everyone if you can do it less often for the same rate of overall progress. Even if you are playing all the time, it means you can enjoy more of the game's content instead of spending all of every play session on just one thing.

And we already have what SE has deemed acceptable limits in place. Also, and you might have alluded to this but, let's not pretend those limits are entirely aimed at our personal health.

That said and imo, "dailies" suck no matter how often they are. Once an hour, once a day, 3 days, week, month... Maybe there are some who really like those 100% but the same result typically happens...it gets old to the point of moving on to other things (or stopping completely) and people who rush/max things out, will do so no matter what while those who don't will "fall behind".

I don't believe anything will be prolonged by adjusting what's already in place nor will it drastically change the rate in which people get bored of it.

With that...change it, don't change it. I'll jump into Sortie when I feel like it till the point where I don't feel like it's needed anymore. I'll take more Gallimaufry per kill though (including the normal/trash mobs)!

[Fahzewn]

Would be nice if they could redesign the entry to act like Imprimaturs. Normal entry is 1 for normal rewards. 2 = X% increase (double plus 5% Gallimaufry gain?), 3 = Y% increase (triple plus 10%?).

The plates would recharge every 20 hours but stack up to at least 3. Still 60 minutes.

Do 3 runs in a row if you want for more chest/item drop chances (or more often in a day for those who want it) or do 1 with all available plates for more Gallimaufry gain in one shot.