Seriously SE fix emperyan relic drop rate...

[Darwena]

did some run again and here my point of view:

10 light: we barely drop 1 boots in 2 hours... PUP
15 light: we droped 2 boots in 2 hours... DRG DNC
15-20: (lost count) got 4 boots in 5 hours... DRG DNC SAM DNC
20 light: DNC droped again in 2 hous...

So far I think 10-20 light is pretty much good for droping stuff. Also today we focused only on Amber and Pearl; drop rate of the brown chest was better than the day we over caped azure.

Now, if the /"$%in NIN boots could drop...

[Hayward]

I swear that Unkai Sune-Ate have THE worst drop rate in Vunkerl. I've yet to see one pair in those gold chests. The rest have dropped at one point or another, but the Sune-Ate just don't seem to drop. It's absolutely nuts.

Misareaux gold pyxides rarely seem to drop under any circumstances. I'm lucky that the Creed Sabatons dropped after hours of farming. I still need the Cothurnes and Ocreae from that area.

Of the Attohwa AF3, I'm mostly interested in the Sabots, Poulaines, and Gaiters. 2 of those 3 seem to have reasonable drop rates.

[Darwena]

I swear that Unkai Sune-Ate have THE worst drop rate in Vunkerl. I've yet to see one pair in those gold chests. The rest have dropped at one point or another, but the Sune-Ate just don't seem to drop. It's absolutely nuts.

Misareaux gold pyxides rarely seem to drop under any circumstances. I'm lucky that the Creed Sabatons dropped after hours of farming. I still need the Cothurnes and Ocreae from that area.

Of the Attohwa AF3, I'm mostly interested in the Sabots, Poulaines, and Gaiters. 2 of those 3 seem to have reasonable drop rates.

I will say the same about Iga (NIN)... got all other jobs some twice and sme triple but NIN never drop yet...

[Kingofgeeks]

just a matter of luck i guess. i remember complaints like this when everyone was all into dynamis... just gotta get lucky

[RAIST]

yeah.. random is random--and when you are talking <1% drop rate for one specific item, you have 2 strikes against you before you even step up to the plate. One of the key factors in armor drop rates is the state of the Pulse Martello. I forget the exact number--but I think it was the last core in the list. If they don't have at least one of those cores, drop rates will suck. People need to do Bastion and Resistance Ops to secure the Martello cores and increase the drops.

Already have my DRG seals, so been trying to get my feet--only ones left to get from Vunkerl. 9-10 hours the last two days soloing on NIN: 3 SMN, 1 DNC. The most productive time was around JP Prime time (they do a lot of Bastion stuff). Build my lights fast off NM/Ephemerals. Once I get my 10-12 amber going, I just go all out kiling crap as fast as I can--my hp stays around 50% or less almost the whole time. Eventually wind up with about 40 Az/P and 20 Amber.

Last night after about 2 hours of slaughtering and no feet dropping in that session, I got frustrated and grabbed some more VNM/Ephem and ramped up my amber as I was down to about 40 minutes time. Just to see how it would affect things, I ran it all the way to 45 Amber and got a lot of pop/KI's. Got lucky and nabbed a diamond ring with +7 INT, +12 Ice Resist, +2 resist Silence. While I was happy to get the ring...was still annoyed that I can get a decent tier R/E like that and not get any @#$@#$@#$ feet after roughly 3 hours.

But, that's the way the game is... 1/100 chance to get that ONE item you want.

[Darwena]

We had time today so we get on a new strategy:

1- Capped Azure light at start for temp item and TE (killing the Ephemereal mob for faster result)
2- Work on Pearl light for better drop rate
3- worked On Amber for 10-20 light

In 3 hours, we droped DNC, COR and FINALY NIN!!!

[Miiyo]

War/sam, Blm, thf or blu, and whm and they're yours in under 3 hours.

[RAIST]

roughly a 6 hour stint tonight in Vunkyrl. Pulse Martello had 1 #06 core and 3 #07 cores (so chest spawn rate and treasure were enhanced) when we started. I started the session solo, and picked up a few from LS after I killed a few VNM's for Pearl only (no azure/amber started yet, just pearl). The core of us stayed almost the entire session (two left about 1 hour before I quit), while ls mates came and went to grab the unclaimed pieces as they fell. For the last hour I was back to soloing, and in that last hour I got 3 more pieces to drop by myself.

We had every piece to fall EXCEPT DRG, SCH, SAM (I needed DRG). Every other job dropped at LEAST twice--several dropped 3 times. And it wasn't for a lack of kill rate--made 20 merits 2/3 the way through the run. We killed over 200 pucks during windsday to finish a magian for one member--actually finished it with almost 4 game hours still on the day. We literally owned the camp for that one hour. I'm running out of friends who need gear from that zone or are wiling to come help just for the sake of helping me out. This is the ONLY AF3 piece I have left to get from that zone. Maybe it is something stupid like some mobs simply won't drop certain pieces or something...IDK, I ALWAYS get SMN to drop with little effort (4 fell tonight in fact).

Baffles me how SE can declare the drop rates are "balanced". I know, random is random, but this is ridiculous...

Anyway, guess I'll be back at it again tomorrow.

[axlzero]

why not the job that gets the kill makes the type of feet drop if you want warrior feet to drop then warrior gets the kill shot in if you want blm then blm get the kill shot smn ect ect that would solve all i had the same argument in dynamis why not the mob in dynamis drop the af of there job normal mobs give a 25% rate and notorious mobs a 75% rate for there jobs its so simple and solves all

[RAIST]

why not the job that gets the kill makes the type of feet drop if you want warrior feet to drop then warrior gets the kill shot in if you want blm then blm get the kill shot smn ect ect that would solve all i had the same argument in dynamis why not the mob in dynamis drop the af of there job normal mobs give a 25% rate and notorious mobs a 75% rate for there jobs its so simple and solves all

Maybe just an elevated priority, maybe equivalent to a TH1 or TH2 effect. A lot of times it winds up being a small group getting most of the kill shots.

I'm thinking maybe a stricter probability model--something that removes the piece from the pool for a while after it drops. It's really annoying to get the same pieces on sequential drops. Removing it from your pool for an hour or two would increase the chance for others to drop. If this were going on last night, we would have kept PUP, DNC, and SMN from the drop pool for several hours and increased the chances for DRG, SAM, SCH to drop for a while.