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[Vold]

There's so few of us left. Has age not improved ourselves on how we treat one another? Do we really need to act like we're all still in our teens and 20s? I mean, we're all who we are but it's been over 20 years. Age can and does change people. Maybe the youngest buck around here is up to their teens for XI experience. Am I the only one who ran out of the energy for MMO arguments like ten or fifteen years ago?

I let go of my vitriol for player strangers a long time ago when I realized I was taking things out on innocent players who never brought any harm against me. I was harsh to people for the sins of the many youthful players back in the early days. I became very angry that people would give me crap over my name. They never wanted to hear how I came up with it. They just went straight to mocking for somehow misspelling it. Some even went well past that to downright harassment by their own free will that I didn't encourage in the least by anything I said, that to this day I have their names on my blacklist. None of them are playing anymore, and I don't even know how to clear it. XI was my first MMORPG. Like a child being raised by their parents, I learned how to be nasty to people from my experiences in game. I thought it was the thing to do, the way to be.

My rep will probably never recover as far as any forums go. My more youthful stances and nature early on on these forums have ensured that. I've been tempted more than once of server jumping, creating a new char with the same name here, so I could transfer back and change my name. But I don't do it because I am owning up to the rep I stuck myself with. And I push on here, farming my mythics while my bro squad is on their yearly break, alone. As I deserve. But at least my bros know the real me. If not for my friends who were forgiving enough to play around me, I'd probably been gone from here 18 years ago.

What I hope for, besides SE finding a heart to spend the money and make XI great again just for us so it can be updated like a normal MMO that doesn't have a trillion people playing it, is everyone today can look back at their youthful selves playing MMOs and say(if they deserve it) 'wow what an asshole. Let's be better now.' XI had a way of creating monsters. Well that's long gone now and the game is all the better for it. Why can't we move on and be better, too? Be less confronting. Be less dismissive. Think how you can put something into words that come from your point of view rather than stating it like it's a cold hard fact. That one is alittle hard to let go. We all think our opinion is a matter of fact I don't care if you're 15 or 55.

If you're reading this you're probably in your late 30s to early 40s, hell maybe some 50s even. I know at least one couple who are probably in their very late 40s or early 50s. I know it seems important to defend yourself, or to put someone in their place. I say this with all the pieces of my heart: Let it go. You are half way through your life, give or take 10 years. Let it go, and leave the gamer vitriol for the young.

[Ahalee]

There's so few of us left. Has age not improved ourselves on how we treat one another? Do we really need to act like we're all still in our teens and 20s? I mean, we're all who we are but it's been over 20 years. Age can and does change people. Maybe the youngest buck around here is up to their teens for XI experience. Am I the only one who ran out of the energy for MMO arguments like ten or fifteen years ago?

I let go of my vitriol for player strangers a long time ago when I realized I was taking things out on innocent players who never brought any harm against me. I was harsh to people for the sins of the many youthful players back in the early days. I became very angry that people would give me crap over my name. They never wanted to hear how I came up with it. They just went straight to mocking for somehow misspelling it. Some even went well past that to downright harassment by their own free will that I didn't encourage in the least by anything I said, that to this day I have their names on my blacklist. None of them are playing anymore, and I don't even know how to clear it. XI was my first MMORPG. Like a child being raised by their parents, I learned how to be nasty to people from my experiences in game. I thought it was the thing to do, the way to be.

My rep will probably never recover as far as any forums go. My more youthful stances and nature early on on these forums have ensured that. I've been tempted more than once of server jumping, creating a new char with the same name here, so I could transfer back and change my name. But I don't do it because I am owning up to the rep I stuck myself with. And I push on here, farming my mythics while my bro squad is on their yearly break, alone. As I deserve. But at least my bros know the real me. If not for my friends who were forgiving enough to play around me, I'd probably been gone from here 18 years ago.

What I hope for, besides SE finding a heart to spend the money and make XI great again just for us so it can be updated like a normal MMO that doesn't have a trillion people playing it, is everyone today can look back at their youthful selves playing MMOs and say(if they deserve it) 'wow what an asshole. Let's be better now.' XI had a way of creating monsters. Well that's long gone now and the game is all the better for it. Why can't we move on and be better, too? Be less confronting. Be less dismissive. Think how you can put something into words that come from your point of view rather than stating it like it's a cold hard fact. That one is alittle hard to let go. We all think our opinion is a matter of fact I don't care if you're 15 or 55.

If you're reading this you're probably in your late 30s to early 40s, hell maybe some 50s even. I know at least one couple who are probably in their very late 40s or early 50s. I know it seems important to defend yourself, or to put someone in their place. I say this with all the pieces of my heart: Let it go. You are half way through your life, give or take 10 years. Let it go, and leave the gamer vitriol for the young.

Given that I wasn't even participating in these forums until my name got dragged into a topic out of nowhere, I feel like this is a false equivalency. The fact of the matter is that Rinuko and Alhanelem are continue to act as the aggressors here in this situation to the detriment of this topic and board and just won't let things go.

[Alhanelem]

There's so few of us left. Has age not improved ourselves on how we treat one another? Do we really need to act like we're all still in our teens and 20s? I mean, we're all who we are but it's been over 20 years. Age can and does change people. Maybe the youngest buck around here is up to their teens for XI experience. Am I the only one who ran out of the energy for MMO arguments like ten or fifteen years ago?

I let go of my vitriol for player strangers a long time ago when I realized I was taking things out on innocent players who never brought any harm against me. I was harsh to people for the sins of the many youthful players back in the early days. I became very angry that people would give me crap over my name. They never wanted to hear how I came up with it. They just went straight to mocking for somehow misspelling it. Some even went well past that to downright harassment by their own free will that I didn't encourage in the least by anything I said, that to this day I have their names on my blacklist. None of them are playing anymore, and I don't even know how to clear it. XI was my first MMORPG. Like a child being raised by their parents, I learned how to be nasty to people from my experiences in game. I thought it was the thing to do, the way to be.

My rep will probably never recover as far as any forums go. My more youthful stances and nature early on on these forums have ensured that. I've been tempted more than once of server jumping, creating a new char with the same name here, so I could transfer back and change my name. But I don't do it because I am owning up to the rep I stuck myself with. And I push on here, farming my mythics while my bro squad is on their yearly break, alone. As I deserve. But at least my bros know the real me. If not for my friends who were forgiving enough to play around me, I'd probably been gone from here 18 years ago.

What I hope for, besides SE finding a heart to spend the money and make XI great again just for us so it can be updated like a normal MMO that doesn't have a trillion people playing it, is everyone today can look back at their youthful selves playing MMOs and say(if they deserve it) 'wow what an asshole. Let's be better now.' XI had a way of creating monsters. Well that's long gone now and the game is all the better for it. Why can't we move on and be better, too? Be less confronting. Be less dismissive. Think how you can put something into words that come from your point of view rather than stating it like it's a cold hard fact. That one is alittle hard to let go. We all think our opinion is a matter of fact I don't care if you're 15 or 55.

If you're reading this you're probably in your late 30s to early 40s, hell maybe some 50s even. I know at least one couple who are probably in their very late 40s or early 50s. I know it seems important to defend yourself, or to put someone in their place. I say this with all the pieces of my heart: Let it go. You are half way through your life, give or take 10 years. Let it go, and leave the gamer vitriol for the young.

Yeah, 40 here. Started playing in college. And you're right about most of this. It's not always easy but we really all should be getting more chill in our old age lol. I see also that like me you popped on here at the very beginning.

And one last genuine piece of advice: Stop caring so much what other people think. if several pages worth of posts are made and people are still arguing, it should be obvious at that point that no one involved is going to budge on their feelings. If you can't convince someone after a few posts, then oh well. let them remain in ignorance. Which is something I need to remind myself of as well.

[Uroah]

just won't let things go.

Stop feeding the damn trolls and ignore them. Go back to ignoring the whole site, there's nothing of value here.

Devs and reps dont care about your opinions and no one cares about your honor or whatever you think you're defending. All you're doing is entertaining trolls.

[Rinuko]

Given that I wasn't even participating in these forums until my name got dragged into a topic out of nowhere, I feel like this is a false equivalency. The fact of the matter is that Rinuko and Alhanelem are continue to act as the aggressors here in this situation to the detriment of this topic and board and just won't let things go.

I'm not acting as any aggressor. You have been trying to paint me as the bad guy since I called you out on your definition of being "scammed" on Reddit.

You then have followed me around in-game, spamming me with lies and harassing me both in-game and by making 20-30+ Reddit accounts.

Not to mention how much you tried to throw me and others under the bus in yells when I haven't even interacted with you.

Meanwhile, here you're trying to come off this innocent and pure person who gets everyone's heat unprovoked. You're fake.

There is a reason I need to have you blocked everywhere, otherwise I see comments like this.

Grow up and enjoy the game, or leave. I couldn't care less.

[Sp1cyryan]

Nothing but good things have/will come from this thread.

[Ahalee]

Yeah, 40 here. Started playing in college. And you're right about most of this. It's not always easy but we really all should be getting more chill in our old age lol. I see also that like me you popped on here at the very beginning.

And one last genuine piece of advice: Stop caring so much what other people think. if several pages worth of posts are made and people are still arguing, it should be obvious at that point that no one involved is going to budge on their feelings. If you can't convince someone after a few posts, then oh well. let them remain in ignorance. Which is something I need to remind myself of as well.

I don't see myself as old, however at the same time, I was chill before this mess happened and I still feel like when I wasn't chill that I wasn't out of line for being not chill given the circumstances.

Obviously you should take your own advice on not caring what others think given you've been taking left and right cheap shots at me for a while now. Just saying.

Stop feeding the damn trolls and ignore them. Go back to ignoring the whole site, there's nothing of value here.

Devs and reps don't care about your opinions and no one cares about your honor or whatever you think you're defending. All you're doing is entertaining trolls.

I'm not going to put up zero defense while people come onto forums and try to defame me and sludge my name. That doesn't make sense to me at all. It shouldn't make sense to anyone really.

I care about my rep and I feel strongly that that it what I am defending by coming on here to defend myself after my name was dragged onto these boards unprovoked in an effort to defame me.

I'm not acting as any aggressor. You have been trying to paint me as the bad guy since I called you out on your definition of being "scammed" on Reddit.

You then have followed me around in-game, spamming me with lies and harassing me both in-game and by making 20-30+ Reddit accounts.

Not to mention how much you tried to throw me and others under the bus in yells when I haven't even interacted with you.

Meanwhile, here you're trying to come off this innocent and pure person who gets everyone's heat unprovoked. You're fake.

There is a reason I need to have you blocked everywhere, otherwise I see comments like this.

Grow up and enjoy the game, or leave. I couldn't care less.

You clearly have been acting as the aggressor party and anyone can see that based on your post history that hasn't been edited to try to cover things up. I never followed you around in game at all or anyone else for that matter. I never even sent you any /tells. You aren't even on the same server anymore as far as I know. I'm not on Odin. I never once mentioned you in /yell.

I never said I was perfect, if I was perfect I wouldn't have let Euvedant get under my skin when he /yells for groups with zero remorse for things he has done. I wouldn't have wasted hours of my time in /yell with that mess that day earlier this month. There's other things obviously too. I'm not claiming anything you're acting like I'm claiming in that regard. At the same time the heat has been unprovoked.

If you want to block me go ahead. I'm not going to lose sleep over it. But I doubt you will because it seems like you just want to troll me honestly.

[Alhanelem]

I'm not going to put up zero defense

That's exactly what you should do. This is the internet, what happens there stays there. Why are you getting emotionally invested in a dispute with people you've never seen and will never actually meet and don't really know anything about (and vice versa)?

[Sp1cyryan]

That's exactly what you should do. This is the internet, what happens there stays there. Why are you getting emotionally invested in a dispute with people you've never seen and will never actually meet and don't really know anything about (and vice versa)?

But, people said things on the Internet. If they get away with it then what message does that send to all the unwashed masses?!

Next thing you know we will have an unfettered horde of bots plaguing the game while people argue over old level capped fights no one thinks about.

[Alhanelem]

Next thing you know we will have an unfettered horde of bots plaguing the game while people argue over old level capped fights no one thinks about.

Hang on, nobody doe- ... wait...