My continued support of FFXI, and SE as a company.

[Ahalee]

I never said I got banned. Also I didnt report you for stating facts, I reported you for harassment. You dont really do facts too often by the way.

[Alhanelem]

I never said I got banned. Also I didnt report you for stating facts, I reported you for harassment. You dont really do facts too often by the way.

I hate to say it, but if they weren't satisfied with your performance they had a right to remove you unless you were paying for the privilege.

[Ahalee]

I see Bizarro deleted his post before I had time to respond. What a trooper.

Anyhow, so they technically didn't have the right to remove me under the ToS but I doubt that would be enforced. So instead of wasting my time calling a GM, I did the next best thing and alerted the playerbase to what amounts to a scam (although there are worse scams out there admittedly). Leading people on under false pretenses is scamming behavior. If they had been up front and just did gear check and asked for stats and denied me based on that, then that's no problem and if I had to, I would have formed my own party. But using people to sustain a run and then callously dumping people when it's convenient and when your alt/buddy needs is just wrong and if anyone doesn't realize that, then maybe they weren't raised right or something.

[Rinuko]

What part of the TOS entitles you to not be removed from a party?

[Ahalee]

What part of the TOS entitles you to not be removed from a party?

I never said there was a part of the ToS that entitles me not to be removed. Read up and re-read what I had said please.

[Rinuko]

so they technically didn't have the right to remove me under the ToS but I doubt that would be enforced.

Maybe I misunderstood what you're saying, can you clarify what you meant by this? Sounds like you're stating it's against the ToS to remove someone from a party.

[Bizarro]

I see Bizarro deleted his post before I had time to respond. What a trooper.

Anyhow, so they technically didn't have the right to remove me under the ToS but I doubt that would be enforced. So instead of wasting my time calling a GM, I did the next best thing and alerted the playerbase to what amounts to a scam (although there are worse scams out there admittedly). Leading people on under false pretenses is scamming behavior. If they had been up front and just did gear check and asked for stats and denied me based on that, then that's no problem and if I had to, I would have formed my own party. But using people to sustain a run and then callously dumping people when it's convenient and when your alt/buddy needs is just wrong and if anyone doesn't realize that, then maybe they weren't raised right or something.

I didnt delete it, no idea what happened.

Based on our previous conversations you seem to have a grasp of the ToS, I'm curious where it defines, ". . .technically didn't have the right to remove me . .". Can you give us a specific line number or section where this is stated?

[Alhanelem]

Anyhow, so they technically didn't have the right to remove me under the ToS

What? You can kick someone from a party for any reason as long as it doesn't constitute harassment or discrimination (i.e. kicking you because of race ethnicity whatever).

Kicking people from parties is a basic function of the game and is most certainly allowed under the TOS. It's only an issue if you are violating some other provision in so doing (i.e. harassing, as mentioned)

You'd be in for a particularly rude awakening if you tried to cite the TOS in an FF14 raid and the leader kicks you for performance. Sure, they technically can't use DPS meters as the basis (i.e. third party tool use) but if you're bad enough that it's observable to the human eye, then no- they have every right to optimize their group.

[Talaya]

(Which account am I on? Doesn't matter...)



Welcome to the Yoshi P Final Fantasy Era.



Imo (Just my opinion folks....), the failure of XIV ultimately damaged not only their revenue/earnings, but approach to Final Fantasy games from that point forward (It was not the Avengers which initially damaged SE.....). They began to abandon all conventional wisdom, for trendy mechanics. I challenge anyone to find a worst trio of successive FF releases this bad..........



XIV: Which initially failed

XV: Maybe the most hated FF

woah woah, XV is a good game, story was good, would have been fantastic if they got to finish it, another example of SE shafting thier games.
was XV perfect? hell no, controls could be a nightmare but it was a fun game and i thoroughly enjoyed it.

13 should be here, i dont know WHY, i just dont get why they put so much money into that pants game and made 3, THREE of the darn things, just let it sit in its own dumpster fire please SE, it wasnt good, stop pushing it.

14 did fail initially, it was reborn with some promise and then swiftly started to throw itself off a cliff over time.
the jobs are mere shells of themselves, they removed everything that made the game interesting, subjob dealio is just gone now, skills are dumb and hollow... the game is basically WoW (yawn...) and the literally just keep taking story and content from other FF titles to shove into XIV to keep interest.... that just seems dumb imo.
i played through all of ShB and the entire time i was like "isnt this just CoP and Zilart from XI?" then im seeing XI models everywhere and when i was finally done with ShB story, i quit and resubbed to 11 again.

XI has more to do long term, 14 is boring, so very boring.
dailies are literally grinding out old dungeons over and over, leveling is literally old dungeons and doing your rotations OVER AND OVER and over and ...... you get it.
that isnt fun, that is borderline torture.

you are probably sitting there like "but in XI, its just fight and grind" in a sense you are correct, but youre missing out on something important here, XI made players connect back in the day, you would make friends, fighting any old mob for EXP was actually difficult to keep going and all in all, i enjoyed that, i dont have time for that now, but when i did, gosh it was good.
nowadays XI is fast to level and i get to change zones fast and mess with new skills and take things at my own pace and not feel locked into any dungeon or whatever just to level up, i dont mind this, i still have people to talk to, and thats the biggest thing i found between XI and XIV, people love to chat in XI, but in XIV, the servers i tried, it was just dead, no one wanted to talk unless you wanted to RP or they wanted something from you.
also Rotation? what's that? we do what we need to and we adapt, we change things up, its not the same 6 skills over and over, there is a ton of ways to do the same content and that is great fun.

XI WAS the highest grossing until a few years ago when XIV took over, but it took XIV over 6 years to do it, so yknow XI was and is doing well financially speaking.
and il say it now and every damn time, if they did crowdfunding for this game to get it updated or whatever, i guarantee they would get funds coming in from fans.
those that love this game, LOVE this game and i think thats so cool.
i wish the team behind XI now would realise how much of the west still love and play it, ive met so many, SO MANY EU and US players who adore XI, its a shame that the west doesnt see much of the fun stuff that the japanese get for the game.


also on the remark of XIV being more popular on its rebirth, you forget that XIV has a f*ckton and i mean a shedload of advertisement, even to this day. when XI came out, the only adverts i ever saw of it was in gaming magazines and even in those magazines back then, it was small and so rare to see, do you see adverts for XI now? no, and i havnt seen any adverts for FFXI in an extremely long time.
there is a vast difference to how XI was treated vs XIV on thier releases.

we could all harp on, day in and day out, but unless the team/SE stop faffing about and actually do something to help XI grow, we are stuck with what we get for now.

we all want XI to grow, we would love to see XI become more and more, just keep voicing it, keep letting them know, show SE how much this game is loved, maybe oneday they will see it the way we do, its a small hope, but you never know, XI has been in and out of maintenance mode many times, lets see what happens.

[Dihlyte]

Some of you are arguing, and others are posting their thoughts on the matter, and for the latter, I am grateful.

I would have a lot to say,l but I am not a fan of people nitpicking my examples and trying to debate the minor details while ignoring the overall message, which is what I attempted to convey in the original post.

I want nothing more than to continue to support "Final Fantasy" the franchise that so many of us have devoted decades of our time and money to build from FFI to FFXI, FFXII and some others here and there removed or added by an individual.

One thing remains, that Final Fantasy as a whole stands for one thing, and the more recent titles are straying further and further way, albeit by different avenues, but as a whole still further than the previous.

FFVII was successful, not because of graphics, but because it had it all. A simple enough story to follow, with a vast world to explore with meaningful secrets, rewards, quests, hidden monsters, mini games, the whole nine yards.

What I do not get, is SE thinks they cannot make another game like that on modern hardware. They absolutely can. They just need to stop caring so much about graphics. You would think FFXIV 1.0, The Spirits Within, and other similar failures or short comings, coupled with the success of titles such as Minecraft or other low graphical games, would have taught them as much, but clearly not.

/shrug.