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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Did it ever mean anything? I remember even back to 75 days, people were TP burning everything post TOAU and it was really easy to get multiple jobs to cap. Then when they came out with level sync, forget about it, super easy. So really EXPing is not and has never been a metric for determining if someone is a good player... Who cares if they allow trusts in there, those fights against Maat were never difficult lol.
    Well, I'm not sure what parties you were joining but most people had to do at least SOMETHING during the fight...

    Not the current meta of....... standing there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    Well, I'm not sure what parties you were joining but most people had to do at least SOMETHING during the fight...

    Not the current meta of....... standing there.
    If SE wanted to, they could completely change how do get XP. They could put us in an instance of Cirdas Caverns with Nyzule objectives and have that become the predominate method for earning master levels.

    The current meta of "just standing there" is a symptom of play-styles that don't favor or include certain jobs. It's almost as if a multi-boxer with 3-4 characters has a better chance of making progress than someone who is shouting on the most popular job. That's SE's fault. Not the players.

    A very small suggestion: Job-specific bonus for Odyssey Segment farm. Every 24 hours, a new random job is chosen, and if you party with that job, you get +20% Odyssey segments, Sortie gallimaugry, Nyzule Tokens, Bayld, etc etc. etc. This will cause party compositions to change potentially and create a more active and dynamic group setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    The current meta of "just standing there" is a symptom of play-styles that don't favor or include certain jobs.
    A significant majority of people are gaining levels in suspected third-party groups, regardless of job. Nobody wants to ML the way it was intended, well 99% don't. This is obvious with the new camps (Locus Imps) being completely empty...


    It's not bot friendly..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    Well, I'm not sure what parties you were joining but most people had to do at least SOMETHING during the fight...

    Not the current meta of....... standing there.
    Yeah the same handful of actions over and over and over. It wasn't really rocket science, more like busy work. So not sure why you are using that as some kind of test of skill lol. Also there were plenty of leech parties back in the day. There was SMN burns in Korrokola, hell some bards just sang songs and sat there and didn't pull lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Yeah the same handful of actions over and over and over.
    That is mostly DD..

    Mages on the other hand is a different ball game, especially when things start getting rough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    That is mostly DD..

    Mages on the other hand is a different ball game, especially when things start getting rough.
    I lived and breathed this game during 75 era, you are wrong. They were all repeating the same actions over and over, even mages. Especially once people started bringing outside PLs to exp. You aren't going to convince me there was some badge of honor exping back in the day, it was trivial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    I lived and breathed this game during 75 era, you are wrong. They were all repeating the same actions over and over, even mages. Especially once people started bringing outside PLs to exp. You aren't going to convince me there was some badge of honor exping back in the day, it was trivial.
    If you don't think mages have a multitude of actions to undertake in each and every battle (I play WHM) then I have no idea who you have been partying with over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    If you don't think mages have a multitude of actions to undertake in each and every battle (I play WHM) then I have no idea who you have been partying with over the years.
    They have long taken pride in stating they won't join shout groups and basically just play with all their bot—i mean mule—accounts and some LS members. So that is who they party with, mostly themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    They have long taken pride in stating they won't join shout groups and basically just play with all their bot—i mean mule—accounts and some LS members. So that is who they party with, mostly themselves.
    No pride, its just how I choose to play. I have lead an LS thru every era of this games life and now I consider myself retired and don't lead or really play as much due to RL. I have first hand experience with literally everything in this game and know it like the back of my hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    If you don't think mages have a multitude of actions to undertake in each and every battle (I play WHM) then I have no idea who you have been partying with over the years.
    Are you talking about now or EXP during 75 era? Mages were not anything special during 75 era for exping...
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