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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal View Post
    Demanding respect because we are paying customers, ever heard of that?

    We respect them, I personally love this game and have defended the devs many times. My issue isn't with them, its with the money hungry parent company SE that has apparently decided to starve this game. They deserve every ire they get from people.

    We are saying we want content as paying customers, I dont think thats whining and crying for no reason. You might be happy not getting any content, clearly because you are an XIV player and couldn't give a crap about this game.

    There is no weirdness in the hatred, its blatant and obvious. They milked XI dry for years to support that abomination, including after its initial failure. The state XI is in now is almost directly related to XIV. Its not a wonder why most dislike XIV as a result. Its what makes money now, of course, because they poured all their resources into it since day1. Funny how that works.
    The attitudes of entitlement are so ridiculous with some of the most vocal remaining fanboys. You are paying in exchange for a service. That doesn't entitle you to some personal notion of respect. It is an exchange, and that is it. Thinking you are supposed to get your feet rubbed or something after the fact and that they are supposed to keep doing what you want or forever develop the game is ridiculous.
    You are "demoralized" because you refuse to accept the way things are. If they pulled the plug on the game you would still sit there posting about FF14 and how they should have put more into 11 and blamed people like me for saying you are full of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    The attitudes of entitlement are so ridiculous with some of the most vocal remaining fanboys. You are paying in exchange for a service. That doesn't entitle you to some personal notion of respect. It is an exchange, and that is it. Thinking you are supposed to get your feet rubbed or something after the fact and that they are supposed to keep doing what you want or forever develop the game is ridiculous.
    You are "demoralized" because you refuse to accept the way things are. If they pulled the plug on the game you would still sit there posting about FF14 and how they should have put more into 11 and blamed people like me for saying you are full of it.
    I agree people like them act entitled and there the same people who would be the types that would attack the devs for the various things they did at various points in the games history like the salvage bans. Then they demand respect from the devs when they show no respect for the devs. The people demanding respect has the most karen levels of "i want to speak to your manager" levels of entitlement with there demands. People always seem to put blame onto ff14 and its community for them putting 11 in maintenance mode and thinks that if ff14 didn't exist they would still be putting massive resources into 11. I'm sad the game is going into permanent maintenance mode but I'm glad the game is still running, and they decided to not pull the plug and the game is still preserved for the foreseeable future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arciela View Post
    I agree people like them act entitled and there the same people who would be the types that would attack the devs for the various things they did at various points in the games history like the salvage bans. Then they demand respect from the devs when they show no respect for the devs. The people demanding respect has the most karen levels of "i want to speak to your manager" levels of entitlement with there demands. People always seem to put blame onto ff14 and its community for them putting 11 in maintenance mode and thinks that if ff14 didn't exist they would still be putting massive resources into 11. I'm sad the game is going into permanent maintenance mode but I'm glad the game is still running, and they decided to not pull the plug and the game is still preserved for the foreseeable future.
    We honestly lucked out that they chose to preserve the game in maintenance mode rather than pull the plug. Despite the ignorant and constant comparisons to 14, 11 was going to end otherwise. So these people need to stop feeling that their pathetic subscription fee entitles them to eat their cake and have it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    We honestly lucked out that they chose to preserve the game in maintenance mode rather than pull the plug. Despite the ignorant and constant comparisons to 14, 11 was going to end otherwise. So these people need to stop feeling that their pathetic subscription fee entitles them to eat their cake and have it too.
    Right from the interview it seems there only options was shutdown or put it in maintenance mode. Im happy we still get access to the game even in its maintenance mode but people seem to always be unhappy and want to put blame on something and the thing that gets all the blame is ff14. The people that are demanding respect from the devs should be happy it will remain online when they could have shut down the game a year ago which they came close to doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp1cyryan View Post
    11 was going to end otherwise.
    Given the sheer level of botting in all zones, I'd say it's already ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    Given the sheer level of botting in all zones, I'd say it's already ended.
    Isn't all MMORPG done then since botting is in all games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    Isn't all MMORPG done then since botting is in all games?
    Yes and no. However in this case, there apparently seems to be very little policing on the matter.
    They are literately everywhere and some are breaking rules in the highest degree and have been doing it for years on end. It's gotten to the point where they are so brazen about it due to the apparent lack of enforcement.

    The Locus camps are almost entirely botted and I'm not just referring to RMT, I'm talking about average players too. West Ronfaure has also become a haven for bots, so much so that any new players may even struggle to find a monster to fight.

    I've played FFXI for many years and I've never seen anything like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    Yes and no. However in this case, there apparently seems to be very little policing on the matter.
    They are literately everywhere and some are breaking rules in the highest degree and have been doing it for years on end. It's gotten to the point where they are so brazen about it due to the apparent lack of enforcement.

    The Locus camps are almost entirely botted and I'm not just referring to RMT, I'm talking about average players too. West Ronfaure has also become a haven for bots, so much so that any new players may even struggle to find a monster to fight.

    I've played FFXI for many years and I've never seen anything like it.
    Yeah, I mean it's clear SE moved all their staff to 14 and just keep around a handful to deal with in-game related issues and all bot reports sent to that task force (if they even still around or we just send reports into the void)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    Given the sheer level of botting in all zones, I'd say it's already ended.
    Fair statement.

    At this point I just pay my sub to help it keep going, and have some fun playing BLM or PUP or something. The future of XI is a somewhat lawless stasis. That being said, it will still be available to play every now and again and that's good enough.
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