Don't bulk buy Crysta..

[Alhanelem]

Come on. We all know Yoshi-P is the leader. It's their money now. Let's say... Yoshi-P probably read this forum and thinks... "Hmmm.. Oh so Zehira wants us to replace this FFXI's engine... Oh so Pixela is against Zehira's idea and prefers the way it is. I don't know what.... Oh so Zehira just unsubbed and stick to my game now..."

Few months later.... Yoshi-P announced FFXIV is getting an upgrade just a moment after you created a thread complaining about XIV again. lol

Yoshi-P isn't just the Producer on FFXIV, he's the head of the entire business unit that runs both FFXI and FFXIV, and is also working on FFXVI and probably other things. This comment kind of creates an implication that Yoshi P hates FFXI and wants to run it into the ground which simply doesn't exist- He in fact helped ensure its continued operation many years ago.

[Pixela]

YoshiP does not hate FFXI because FFXI adds 30-40k paying players directly to XIV, as well as all the profits from the game that make it worth the investment from his budget. If he closed FFXI he would see the player numbers and profits drop by that much overnight on the next financial report, why would he want to do that? That would like all XIV players on steam being wiped out overnight.

XI is still a very profitable and successful game, adding that onto your flagship title is a major boost when you're fixated with competing with World of Warcraft (which also does the same thing with classic wow btw). XI has more active players than New World, and makes more money than that too because everyone here is paying to be here. Which is a major Amazon gaming project.

XI is valuable to him and XIV, it's not going anywhere unless he can find some way to convert most of them over to being XIV players and that's not going to happen. Because it's really easy to setup direct alternatives to siphon them all away, and if they alienate the loyal players by closing XI those loyal and vocal players will actively promote, help develop and help run those "alternatives" to make sure Square don't profit from doing so.

[Alhanelem]

YoshiP does not hate FFXI because FFXI adds 30-40k paying players directly to XIV

Dude. PLEASE. Stop posting this bullhonkey. FFXI adds players to FFXI, not FFXIV, and he really doesn't care about that. that number is nothing against FFXIV, unfortunate though that may be. He doesn't win some award or get a pay raise because FFXIV still exists. There is no reason in the world that he would be motivated in that way and you know it.

Yoshi P is bigger than both MMOs combined, he is the head of a subdivision of SE that does a lot more than just run two MMOs.

I get it man, you love XI and so do we or we wouldn't be here. You don't need to pull stuff out of your behind to justify support for the game.

[Zehira]

I didn't say Yoshi-P hates FFXI, he apparently wants nothing to do with that. Discussing about SE in general is a waste of time just like at a restaurant we don't let any customer to go to our kitchen to see what we do...

FFXI team just asked you to try out the the Term Filter functions. It's like your last chance this month.

[Pixela]

Me: Evidence and Logic
You: Trist me bro

[Zehira]

I am being polite. I tried to read some of your posts, Pixela, I know our biggest issue is we can't see the future of XI like we can see the future of XIV.

[Alhanelem]

Me: Evidence and Logic
You: Trist me bro

There is no evidence or logic in anything you've posted in this thread.

[Pixela]

XI was counted on every single financial report until 2012 when Tanaka gave him the project, and hasn't been ever since.

Every service that has staff assigned to it and ongoing costs has to be declared on the financial report along with profits, that's the point of it. XI is not because it's part of XIV operations and so they don't need to disclose it.

FFXI is never mentioned in any official way, because it only exists as part of XIV and any money or players it gets are counted towards that. For instance there was no producer message from FF11 on the FF new years message when every other game was.

https://na.finalfantasy.com/topics/332

When you buy Crysta and don't spend it they have no idea what you bought it for, this is impossible in this company system because it has to be assigned to something. It's assigned to XIV because Sqenix is the XIV account system.

Crysta can be used for XI and XIV but not DQ10, which is also in the same Bdivision.

The producer of XI is Yoshida with the XI producer being under him (not the case with DQ10), this makes no sense at all. A project only has one producer if it's a standalone project (he is not the producer of dq10)

XIV uses whatever assets they want from XI, because they are the same project and he can do what he wants with it as the producer of XIV (this is not the case with DQ10 or Nier Automata, he needs to ask the producer of that game (and sometimes even pay for the use of it from the project he runs) to use anything and it has to be agreed to. This is why they can rip the models and texture from XI for cardians and put them in an XIV dungeon even though that makes no sense at all in any way from a lore standpoint.

The XI playonline account system was scrapped and XI was converted to Sqenix account systems when Tanaka left. This was not done becasue it's better (cause they still use the playonilne launcher) it was done because all money XI makes goes to XIV.

The same customer support staff and GM work on both games, but do not work on anything else in the same Business division and you can often speak to the exact same Gm on both games.

XI and XIV share many of the same staff when available, including many developers when they are free (because they are the same project) if Yoshida agrees to let them do so.

The original point of XIV, was for XI players to move to. Players would not move and ultimately they gave up trying, so they just merged XI into XIV and now we effectively are playing XIV from a financial point of view.

[Zehira]

I am aware of most.

The original point of XIV, was for XI players to move to. Players would not move and ultimately they gave up trying, so they just merged XI into XIV and now we effectively are playing XIV from a financial point of view.

There we go. Maybe it's time to stand up for the change? Or do you really prefer this game to stay the same for 10 years more or even 20 years??

[Alhanelem]

XI was counted on every single financial report until 2012 when Tanaka gave him the project, and hasn't been ever since.

Please link to all of these financial reports. You've claimed this many times but never provide the evidence when questioned.

Even if it's true (which I don't believe that it is) it's still meaningless. It doesn't mean that they're funneling money to any specific other project, because again, that is NOT HOW BUDGETS WORK. There is no conspiracy to destroy FFXI or use it explicitly and solely as a tool to boost some other project. Who gave what to whom is irrelevant, who is producer now is irrelevant. SE is a business and can spend its money however it wants and however it pleases (and pleases its investors). This has nothing to do with the merits of FFXI or FFXIV. It has nothing to do with making it look like FFXIV has more players either, as FFXIV has far greater numbers than XI already and they have no reason or motivation to fake anything.

Its like, you don't have a point because you say all these things about how they're trying to push FFXIV or give it more money (funny enough FFXIV is already seeing its operations being streamlined [i.e. cost cut] even though it's a hugely successful game), even though FFXIV is also seeing its budgets cut back as Creative Business Unit 3 is also working on FFXVI and that's its main focus atm.

Please, just stop using FFXIV and any such related topic as a scapegoat. Whether or not it is is meaningless as SE can, has, and will continue to spend its money how it pleases and attribute it how it pleases and write its financial reports how it pleases and so on and so on and there is nothing you or I or anyone else can write on this forum that will change that. You keep saying "oh I don't hate FFXIV" but you cast it in a massively negative light with every post you make.

In a 4-5 years or so they'll be pretending FFXIV doesn't exist and funding some other Next Big Thing. It's the cycle of (game development) life. Deal with it. I'm sure you won't be complaining about how FFXIV money is being funneled into <insert project here>.

Ultimately you have one option and one option only if you don't like what they're doing. STOP GIVING THEM MONEY. It clearly offends you so much that even one dollar earned by FFXI might be spent on something other than FFXI, so why are you still giving them the resources to do that which you allege they are doing? As far as the topic of this thread goes, it really doesn't matter whether you buy Crysta or not, money earned by SE from this game can and will be spent on whatever they want, because that's how big corporations work.