Return home during the Holidays

[Pixela]

If they just want to play during free access and free access only they are quite entitled to do so, they don't need you telling them not to.

[Alhanelem]

If they just want to play during free access and free access only they are quite entitled to do so, they don't need you telling them not to.

They absolutely are, but I'm also just as entitled to question why someone is doing so. But personally, If I didn't like the game enough to play it more than a little bit every 3-4 months, i'd question why I'm still playing it and probably play something else. (And, there was a period of time when I did just that)

But I also don't usually tell people to ignore other people or anything like that. Let people make up their own minds. Doing what you did amounts to harassment.

[Lockhart]

I mean, the point of these campaigns is to get people to come back, not just to play for free a few days periodically. I think your complaint is silly, holidays are a day each, not the entire campaign- that's plenty of time to enjoy things even if you disregard CDC health advice and meet with people anyway. But that's just my opinion. This is a good thing that they're offering this during a time when in person gatherings are being (and should be) discouraged. The very fact that I care about my family and friends is why I'm not holding or attending any parties or gatherings. It's not even because anyone is saying to do it, it's because it's a logical, rational decision to make under the current circumstances.

Personally I only pay sporadically but I'm still subbed, so I can play whenever the mood strikes me and not just when SE has a campaign. Honestly, if you're literally only playing during free campaigns as a strategy, you may as well just stop playing entirely. I don't want to discourage anyone from coming back to the game, but it doesn't sound like you're really enjoying it that much.

I'm holding by what I said at the beginning. To you holidays may only be one day each, but they are not to everyone. For some of us this is the only time of year we know we can see our spouse and children and/or extended family. Your job or situation is not the same as everyone else's situation. I'm really not trying to get into a covid discussion, although based on Sirmarki's post I can see how doing it during the times they are is beneficial to others and I apricate that is it. All I was saying above is that many of my friends, actual players, that normally I can convince to return for a couple weeks to see all the new exciting things are not going to be able to come back during those times. Sometimes, they decide to sub for a few months (or years) after, which as you stated is SE's goal. I was just bringing up the situation to bring awareness, I'm sorry you find it silly, but I don't.

[Alhanelem]

I'm holding by what I said at the beginning. To you holidays may only be one day each, but they are not to everyone. For some of us this is the only time of year we know we can see our spouse and children and/or extended family. Your job or situation is not the same as everyone else's situation. I'm really not trying to get into a covid discussion, although based on Sirmarki's post I can see how doing it during the times they are is beneficial to others and I apricate that is it. All I was saying above is that many of my friends, actual players, that normally I can convince to return for a couple weeks to see all the new exciting things are not going to be able to come back during those times. Sometimes, they decide to sub for a few months (or years) after, which as you stated is SE's goal. I was just bringing up the situation to bring awareness, I'm sorry you find it silly, but I don't.

They are to everyone. They are dates on a calendar in which we observe traditions and share them with others. Christmas is one day, not weeks or a month. That's an indisputable fact, whether your gatherings or celebrations exceed that duration or not. And even though in the past i've visited relatives (or had them visit) for a week or more, that doesn't mean I spend the entire time with them, there's still time for myself. Your individual circumstances may be different but your post came off as seriously ungrateful. Not everyone has your circumstances, just like not everyone has mine, People will still benefit from this campaign, even if you don't personally.

There are local, n ational or global events every month of the year, no matter when they hold the campaigns they can't please everybody. November wouldn't have been any better because of Thanksgiving, March for Easter, et cetra, et cetera. Not to mention all the observances in Japan.

[Lockhart]

They are to everyone. They are dates on a calendar in which we observe traditions and share them with others. Christmas is one day, not weeks or a month. That's an indisputable fact, whether your gatherings or celebrations exceed that duration or not. And even though in the past i've visited relatives (or had them visit) for a week or more, that doesn't mean I spend the entire time with them, there's still time for myself. Your individual circumstances may be different but your post came off as seriously ungrateful. Not everyone has your circumstances, just like not everyone has mine, People will still benefit from this campaign, even if you don't personally.

There are local, n ational or global events every month of the year, no matter when they hold the campaigns they can't please everybody. November wouldn't have been any better because of Thanksgiving, March for Easter, et cetra, et cetera. Not to mention all the observances in Japan.

The November campaign is not during Thanksgiving. It always ends a week before at least. The only thing I would have to be grateful for is, that during the campaigns, I can get some friends to come back for a time. I personally am always subbed for it. If my friends are not coming back because it falls on holidays, I do not have to be grateful. Your missing the point of my post and taking a tangent. I am posting on their official forum with my thoughts on what they are doing. I do not have to agree with everything they do, nor with however you think. They cannot please everyone, but if I do not voice my thoughts about what they are doing I would have no right to be upset about things they do in the future. You do not have to agree with me, obviously you do not, but you do not need to try and twist everyone's thoughts into your own view. Take a step back, get off your high horse, and relax a little bit. Let other people have an opinion and your welcome to have your own, just stop berating people and trying to derail their opinions because they do not mesh with your own.

[Pixela]

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[Alhanelem]

The November campaign is not during Thanksgiving. It always ends a week before at least.

Their campagns have not always been the same dates and times even before now, and you know that, They aren't avoiding holidays as a rule, nor do the campaigns always align to something specific.

But now SE knows that Lockhart doesn't play video games within a week before or after Christmas so I'm sure they'll never do it again.

The funny thing is it seems like there's always SOMEBODY who gets outraged that these FREE campaigns offered out of the goodness of SE's heart don't exactly live up to what they wanted. Last time someone here was outraged because they didn't follow the clearly spelled out instructions and lost a day or two of free time from resubbing (or something like that), and a time before that someone was outraged because they resubbed a few days before not knowing about the campaign, etc.

[Lockhart]

Their campagns have not always been the same dates and times even before now, and you know that, They aren't avoiding holidays as a rule, nor do the campaigns always align to something specific.

But now SE knows that Lockhart doesn't play video games within a week before or after Christmas so I'm sure they'll never do it again.

The funny thing is it seems like there's always SOMEBODY who gets outraged that these FREE campaigns offered out of the goodness of SE's heart don't exactly live up to what they wanted. Last time someone here was outraged because they didn't follow the clearly spelled out instructions and lost a day or two of free time from resubbing (or something like that).

How does saddened = outraged? These are not out of the "goodness of their hearts", its an attempt to get players to come back. Players that I can usually talk into coming back to see new stuff. This is not as much about me as it is about the fact they cant come back this time. But now I'm repeating myself, with words your going to twist to your narrative again.

[Alhanelem]

How does saddened = outraged? These are not out of the "goodness of their hearts", its an attempt to get players to come back. Players that I can usually talk into coming back to see new stuff. This is not as much about me as it is about the fact they cant come back this time. But now I'm repeating myself, with words your going to twist to your narrative again.

No, you're right, it was hyperbole, I won't deny that. But it was hyperbole to make a point.

I mean yes, the campaigns have a purpose, but it's still a guesture of good will to former players. It's not intended to be a primary means of play though.

Also, I thought you were speaking of yourself, not other players. You don't represent anyone other than yourself. Perhaps you don't, and that's fine, but many people have a lot of extra free time this time of year and many, such as myself, play a lot of games during this time (And this is true any year, not just this one). Doesn't mean they're ignoring family, either.

[Zehira]

Best to ignore the antagonistic posts.

I honestly don't see anything wrong with Alhanelem. He believes in freedom of speech (even though, you all make him to look good most of time). Surely, his reactions may sound "antagonistic" due to his higher post count but the way his words sounding does not. You have every right to ignore, disagree, or do like what he has been doing for years. "I pay a month and I have a right to complain."

The worse thing is you talk with ghetto people.