Results 1 to 10 of 76

Dev. Posts

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player Gwydion's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    1,245
    Character
    Galkashield
    World
    Asura
    Main Class
    THF Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I mean, after much badgering, SE gave us the exact drop rate tables they use across all content. This is just another Crafting Compass or other stupid fabricated myth (SE also later told us direction doesn't matter for crafting)

    Believe in superstitions if you want, but without data, all you have is that- a superstition. Ancedotal evidence is not evidence. You need to keep track. But what you're postulating makes no sense at best- If there were external factors that affected drop rate, they would have to be things you do before defeating a boss, yet you're suggesting that things you do after matter, which makes no sense. The game doesn't know whether you're going to attempt to do the wave 3 boss or not, so there's no way to make a special condition for that in the first place, other than a timer, which would be unprecedented as that's never been done before as far as I'm aware.

    Do it at least 100 times under each set of conditions then we'll talk. His question is not decent. It's dubious at best, based on "I've seen this a few times" and "I want to believe it".
    I think you misunderstand. I am stating anecdotally, that I have witnessed more Volte bodies drop from Wave 2 Bosses being defeated in the first 30 minutes of a run (intended as a Wave 3 run) vs other runs, where farming occurs in Wave1/2 (and as a result Wave 2 Boss is killed in the last 30 minutes of a run). I've personally killed this Windy Wave 2 boss over 100 times over the last 3 years and never saw the body drop when Fii Pexu was killed at the end of run (having spent more than an hour in the zone). Meanwhile other friends have entered, killed the wave 2 boss immediately, with little to no TH, and still got the body to drop on a few occasions.

    So I am postulating to SE the following question: Does a Volte body drop more frequently if the Wave 2 boss is killed earlier in the run vs later in the run?

    Also, to Alhanaelem's assertion, there ARE at least one or two Salvage NMs whose spawn conditions occur if you reached a certain floor within 45 minutes, etc. (Therefore it's not entirely out of the question for a Wave 2 boss to have different drops rates depending how early or late he is killed in a run).
    (0)

  2. 08-06-2020 11:51 AM
    Reason
    Start anew

  3. #3
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Bastok
    Posts
    11,212
    Character
    Tahngarthor
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    SMN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    Also, Ddadadang!
    Again, spawn conditions are not drop rates.

    I'm fully aware of such spawn conditions and they exist all over the game. Show me a monster whose drop rates change based on time elapsed of the content said monster belongs to.

    You can not eyeball a handful of monster drops and invent a pattern that does not exist.

    You can flip a coin 100 times and get 60 heads in a row, that doesn't mean that coins land on heads more than tails.
    (0)

  4. #4
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Bastok
    Posts
    11,212
    Character
    Tahngarthor
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    SMN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    Also, to Alhanaelem's assertion, there ARE at least one or two Salvage NMs whose spawn conditions occur if you reached a certain floor within 45 minutes, etc. (Therefore it's not entirely out of the question for a Wave 2 boss to have different drops rates depending how early or late he is killed in a run).
    Spawn conditions != Drop rates. The monsters have the same drop rates every time.
    (0)

  5. #5
    Player Gwydion's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    1,245
    Character
    Galkashield
    World
    Asura
    Main Class
    THF Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    I think you misunderstand. I am stating anecdotally, that I have witnessed more Volte bodies drop from Wave 2 Bosses being defeated in the first 30 minutes of a run (intended as a Wave 3 run) vs other runs, where farming occurs in Wave1/2 (and as a result Wave 2 Boss is killed in the last 30 minutes of a run). I've personally killed this Windy Wave 2 boss over 100 times over the last 3 years and never saw the body drop when Fii Pexu was killed at the end of run (having spent more than an hour in the zone). Meanwhile other friends have entered, killed the wave 2 boss immediately, with little to no TH, and still got the body to drop on a few occasions.

    So I am postulating to SE the following question: Does a Volte body drop more frequently if the Wave 2 boss is killed earlier in the run vs later in the run?

    Also, to Alhanaelem's assertion, there ARE at least one or two Salvage NMs whose spawn conditions occur if you reached a certain floor within 45 minutes, etc. (Therefore it's not entirely out of the question for a Wave 2 boss to have different drops rates depending how early or late he is killed in a run).
    Bumping in the hopes of hearing from SE. Thanks.
    (0)

  6. #6
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Bastok
    Posts
    11,212
    Character
    Tahngarthor
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    SMN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    Bumping in the hopes of hearing from SE. Thanks.
    They don't respond to thread bumps. Add something meaningful to the thread or leave it be.

    I'm just going to tell you right now straight up it doesn't, and let you keep concocting conspiracy theories.
    You have no evidence that this even *could* be a thing and niether does anyone else. Your conditions for it are also completely arbitrary and have no basis in logic. The community team has better things to do than get every wild conspiarcy theory proven or disproven.
    (0)
    Last edited by Alhanelem; 08-08-2020 at 10:34 AM.

  7. #7
    Player Gwydion's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    1,245
    Character
    Galkashield
    World
    Asura
    Main Class
    THF Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    So I am postulating to SE the following question: Does a Volte body drop more frequently if the Wave 2 boss is killed earlier in the run vs later in the run?
    Sicycre or any other GM staff,
    Could you please take a moment to let us know if there are any special conditions that can change the drop rate of Volte body armor from Wave 2 NMs? After that, please lock this thread as Sicycre has gone above and beyond to help players understand this mechanic in Dynamis Divergence.
    (0)

  8. #8
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Bastok
    Posts
    11,212
    Character
    Tahngarthor
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    SMN Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    Sicycre or any other GM staff,
    Could you please take a moment to let us know if there are any special conditions that can change the drop rate of Volte body armor from Wave 2 NMs? After that, please lock this thread as Sicycre has gone above and beyond to help players understand this mechanic in Dynamis Divergence.
    Sicycre, please understand that this use of the word "we" does not represent the community at large.

    Beyond that, i 100% agree with locking this thread, as there has been no actual honest discussion taking place.


    (Sucking up to the boss ain't gonna work lol)
    (1)