Then it must be that drops are just that horrible. As is now I'm 45 minutes into my current run and 0 relic's and 200 TWS. Ive practically pulled half the map just to AOE and see nada. I'll more then likely finish this run and if nothing drops, i'm just going to consider my loss and return back to ffxiv. No point in wasting more time with RNG being so horrible in content that should atleast be giving something other then currency. IMO feels like currency after 5 TE is 98% drop rate without proc and 100% with but relics are 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%. Given that Relics shouldnt be this hard to farm in 2017 in a 15 year old game. I figured relics fell out of the sky and just to fully upgrade to ilevel 119 would take some time, but apparently just getting the piece is time consuming. Better yet time wasting.