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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin_Uzuki View Post
    That's not Asura culture. That's "there are a lot of people online and running around culture". Of course it happened less because /yell was not a thing ,

    Yell function was implemented before 2012 if I remember correctly. By 2013 the function is already usable in many areas.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...highlight=Yell

    At 2013~2014, most of the servers still had 1k population and yet conversations rarely happen. In fact there were forum posts asking why people don't "chat" in public channels like other MMO. I vaguely recalled even in early 2015 a good weekend Ragnarok population still spikes over 1k and yet there were little, or less conversations. On the other hand, Asura didn't become dominate NA server until something like 2015, when more and more people started transferring there. Before that the population gap between servers were much smaller. And yet yell conversation was never, ever, ever a thing regardless of server. Not on Ragnarok when it had 1k pop, not on Asura in early 2015 nor even late 2015. It only happened post 2016, and gets progressively more noticeable in late 2016. I'm 100% certain this culture is irrelevant to populations.

    I personally believe the reason why conversations didn't happen as often back then is because of JPs. Some JP seems to believe it's impolite to chat in public. In FFXI servers were mostly dominate by JP community back then, so public conversations were less acceptable and mostly done by NA, even then it's just some.

    As NA population gets more and more dominate on Asura, public conversations may just be more socially acceptable than how it used to be.

    In other words, you can have 3k population, but there's still a chance that conversation may not happen depending on who's in the server. Hell on JP prime during free campaign, Rag still spiked past 800 in the weekend, quite close to 1000. And yet shout channels only has recruit shouts 98% of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jin_Uzuki View Post
    That happened in 2006, less so because /yell was not a thing, but certainly happen.
    People chat with shout in town in 75 era yes, but none of them ever become 1-2 hour long "conversation" from my experience. The /yell conversation on Asura was definitely a unique case.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jin_Uzuki View Post
    That happened in 2006, less so because /yell was not a thing, but certainly happen. Hell, it happened on your own server and I can that because I was on Ragnarok on 2007 and I played on that server for years (One I still remember after all these years was World Cup shout fights). Shouts "drama" or "conversations" are nothing new.
    Even if some people shout for world cup fights occasionally like you said, it certainly didn't happen as often as Asura late 2016 to 2017. In fact it happened way less often in early 2015s.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jin_Uzuki View Post
    Like what, panics attacks for /yell? Why are you being so dramatic?
    No one is "dramatic" about yells, lol. But surely people could have the freedom to CHOOSE not to see them, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jin_Uzuki View Post
    The only "culture" that exists in FFXI is "current game culture" and it's generally shared by all servers.
    Again, this is an extremely generalized statement when it comes to the term culture. Every different group has their own culture regardless where you are. Even in a same school, different classes have different behaviors. Some classes are more quiet, some are more noisy. And the difference is very noticeable if you pay attention. This rl examples applies to FFXI, or any MMO, or anywhere where communities exists. Every LS culture are different, every server culture are different. How can you possibly make such claim that every group/server/ls whatever are the same? Unless we have different definition to the term culture. In this entire argument you basically just pop on the forum and claim all communities are the same no matter where they are.

    You know, the term "culture" is broader than that.
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    Last edited by Afania; 01-13-2017 at 05:01 AM.