To the devs: Why won't you nerf Geomancer?

[Rwolf]

It actually isn't easier because the problem isn't Geomancer. The problem is other jobs require Geomancer to fill their roles more reliably. Like RDMs trying to land their debuffs without needing languor.

[PristineChicken]

It actually isn't easier because the problem isn't Geomancer. The problem is other jobs require Geomancer to fill their roles more reliably. Like RDMs trying to land their debuffs without needing languor.

I'm aware. They've worked themselves into a corner. However, the fact remains it's easier to bring Geomancer into line with everyone else than everyone else into line with Geomancer.

[Jin_Uzuki]

It actually isn't easier because the problem isn't Geomancer. The problem is other jobs require Geomancer to fill their roles more reliably. Like RDMs trying to land their debuffs without needing languor.

RDM issue go beyond that. RDM issues are that this game battle system doesn't work like in 2005 and "resource management" is no longer a thing.

GEO is undoubtedly broken, but it's "just" a support job. BLU and SCH for example are far "worse" as far balance goes.

The best solution is too buff Bard, but at the end of the day, you would still need a support job. It's been a constant in all of FFXI life, the only difference now is that it's GEO instead of BRD.

[Rwolf]

RDM issue go beyond that. RDM issues are that this game battle system doesn't work like in 2005 and "resource management" is no longer a thing.

GEO is undoubtedly broken, but it's "just" a support job. BLU and SCH for example are far "worse" as far balance goes.

I agree it goes beyond that. Prefacing what I said about RDM with "like" was to state an example only, not sum everything in a few words. You'll have to explain how Geomancer is broken.

[Shiyo]

RDM issue go beyond that. RDM issues are that this game battle system doesn't work like in 2005 and "resource management" is no longer a thing.

GEO is undoubtedly broken, but it's "just" a support job. BLU and SCH for example are far "worse" as far balance goes.

The best solution is too buff Bard, but at the end of the day, you would still need a support job. It's been a constant in all of FFXI life, the only difference now is that it's GEO instead of BRD.

Haste 2 being given out to blu makes RDM less useful.
Indi-haste existing makes RDM less useful.
BLM doing 50% more nuke damage than every other mage makes RDM less useful.
BLU getting everything and being good at everything makes RDM less useful.

[Jin_Uzuki]

Haste 2 being given out to blu makes RDM less useful.
Indi-haste existing makes RDM less useful.
BLM doing 50% more nuke damage than every other mage makes RDM less useful.
BLU getting everything and being good at everything makes RDM less useful.

Indi haste doesn't even cap haste lulz. And GEO is a support job, OF COURSE it should have haste. Not to mention, is RDM even competing with GEO spot? GEO is competing with BRD and COR.

RDM problem is that the game is no longer the same it was. People got RDM for refresh, convert, haste and enfeebling. Nowadays MP are no longer an issue, convert is no longer an issue and by the time I started casting Paralyze the mob is already over 50% of HP if the party is good. If there is a job that made RDM outdated is probably SCH, not GEO.

I'm not sure how you could even fix the job. Give it self SC too?

[Shiyo]

Indi haste doesn't even cap haste lulz. And GEO is a support job, OF COURSE it should have haste. Not to mention, is RDM even competing with GEO spot? GEO is competing with BRD and COR.

RDM problem is that the game is no longer the same it was. People got RDM for refresh, convert, haste and enfeebling. Nowadays MP are no longer an issue, convert is no longer an issue and by the time I started casting Paralyze the mob is already over 50% of HP if. If there is a job that made RDM outdated is probably SCH, not GEO.

It does with haste1 which you'll always have.

[Nyarlko]

... Not to mention, is RDM even competing with GEO spot? GEO is competing with BRD and COR. ...

A large portion of the complaint is that RDM should be competing for that support spot, but that it is rather non-competitive atm. RDM was once the Jack-of-all-Trades that could compete for various party roles depending on gear loadout. Sure, a WHM might've been able to crank out stronger cures, but a dedicated RDM could come awful close. Sure, a BLM could provide bigger nukes, but a skilled RDM could get off 2x MB for every 1x that a BLM could. RDM's buffs and debuffs were important and had significant impact on success in a lot of fights. For any situation where 100.0% maximum theoretical efficiency/output was not required, RDM made a solid choice for several roles.

Nowadays, not so much. >_<;;

It does with haste1 which you'll always have.

:? I am always surprised when anyone bothers to cast Haste on someone else because of how lazy many players have gotten. It's far from an "always" situation. lol orz

[Jin_Uzuki]

A large portion of the complaint is that RDM should be competing for that support spot

Yeah, but GEO spot??? No one in the days thought "I'm getting a BRD or RDM?" They were completely different kind of supports.