Mog Wardrobe 3&4 feedback.

[Catmato]

I always thought that the Login Points system was their way of figuring out how much they should charge in the cash shop for various items after going free-to-play. I would have put money on that being their big announcement last year.

[Castanica]

Yes, but with the current population in XI, I would venture to say that even a fairly small amount caring could have some rather dramatic effect on some servers if well known players leave.

If they can't find ways to make this game with a small playerbase profitable it will close anyway. Sad fact of life is that if something isn't making decent profits they have to look at other avenues to improve it, or close.

The sword of Damocles hangs over this game at every quarterly financial report. There is a reason every mmorpg on the market that has a sub has optional items, it's not because they are greedy.

If they actually do go back on this decision I will say this games life span will be cut drastically and will probably be the final nail in its coffin, the fact they are looking at ways to make it more profitable is a plus and not a negative.

[xiozen]

Chiming in to say that I unsubbed today, for the final time, after 12 years of on/off play. Its not specifically the fee for Wardrobes 3 & 4, its the slippery slope that this starts with cash shop nonsense.

Obviously it's your choice to unsubscribe at any time for any reason... I would only like to say, my opinion, is that I do not believe the cash shop system is nonsense... it's actually financially sound as a way in which a game that has as many years and as much anchored content as FFXI currently has, searches for ways in which to keep the servers running without having to implement means which would REQUIRE the current player base to pay more. So I welcome these types of changes... because without these types of changes, the adjustments we continue to cry about "job balancing... etc." become moot, since the game would probably end.

[Secondplanet]

Why do people keep saying this is to make the game stay alive and/or increase profit.... last i checked when they got rid of PS2/XBox support they cut 2/3 of the support this game needed as they wouldn't have to maintain 3 different platforms of this game.

[Dazusu]

This is an awful move by SE (IMO), but at the same time - I understand why it has been done in the case of FFXI. Anything that assists the game in staying alive longer is okay by me. So long as it doesn't turn into "pay2win".

Pretty sure Abyssea was created as a "last hurrah" for the game and nothing more was supposed to come.

No. Not at all.

[Castanica]

When they decide the game isn't profitable anymore they will post a message to the players, stating that the game will shut down in a few months time. There will be no discussions with the players, petitions will be ignored and all that will be left will be to make memorial videos of the last few moments before the servers are shut down for the final time as we all stand around in port jeuno and wait for the final "you have been disconnected from the server".

I think none of played CoH and knew the heartache of a game played for many, many years closing and all attempts to save it being in vein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BUtqOaub8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpu2hcNDMcE

People are mainly worried about a slippery slope it seems? Big picture, if this game doesn't make enough money it won't be around to worry about other micro transactions.

There is a difference between being on a crusade against micro transactions on a game like xiv where you know they won't shut it down and on xi where it's in its twilight years and has to justify it's existence to the people who hand out the money.

[Jile]

SE... My wife and I love FFXI and have been paying you a pretty penny to play it over the last 11 or so years. (Myself and 6 mules, my wife and 5 mules and an alt account with its own mule for the last several years, so (12.95*3)+12 so I figure I've paid you over $6000 not even counting the game 3x plus expansions 3x...

That said, I find it disturbing you're trying to extort more money from me... really?

Reconsider the flawed decision to extort more money from us.... Frankly you should be LOWERING the monthly fees for a game with only minor updates, rather than raising rates... Raising rates?... Really angry to be honest.

I'll tell you what. I will pay you more money per month when you agree to make another full expansion, before that, you're delusional!

[Deirdre]

If they can't find ways to make this game with a small playerbase profitable it will close anyway. Sad fact of life is that if something isn't making decent profits they have to look at other avenues to improve it, or close.

The sword of Damocles hangs over this game at every quarterly financial report. There is a reason every mmorpg on the market that has a sub has optional items, it's not because they are greedy.

If they actually do go back on this decision I will say this games life span will be cut drastically and will probably be the final nail in its coffin, the fact they are looking at ways to make it more profitable is a plus and not a negative.

I completely understand your position on it, and that's a fair statement. With that being said, however, I think it's the wrong way to go about it-I think by this point the people left playing XI have proven over and over they're pretty loyal to this type of game, and this announcement just feels...wrong. So what then, would have worked better? Personally, I wouldn't have been bothered in the slightest by an announcment that was something to the effect of:

Adventurers of Vana'diel! (insert fluff here), while we have long supported FFXI, budget problems have forced us into a regrettable choice for the future, and the base subscription will be raised from 12.95 to 14.95 for the forseeable future. However, we have been hard at work trying to find a way to reward such loyal customers for their contributions and we are happy to announce Mog Wardrobe 3 and 4 will be available for characters!

As most of us have said, it's not about the money. It's about how this feels and the way they're doing it that just feels....slimy. Something that doesn't belong in an old MMO like XI. "Let us all contribute!" vs "Hey if you have extra cash you can have more stuff instead".

[Cabalabob]

If it was a one time fee I could maybe get behind it, but not a monthly additional charge, I will not be buying these new wardrobes. I won't support ffxi bringing in a cash shop, I've always respected that ffxi didn't do this kind of thing outside of codes that come with their physical merchandise, but ffxi just went down a peg in my book because of this.

[Urmom]

I could maybe see paying for it if this was a newer game with active development... but for a game that is 14 years old and that literally tells us they can't make any new assets and most the staff is gone only new stuff is reskinned mobs and items from easy and fast to develop battles but no "real" new content I mean cmon