Mog Wardrobe 3&4 feedback.

[mekia]

This thread is hilarious specially the kids who leave the game over something optional lol it's amazing.

[Morovich]

People don't mind it that are playing Final Fantasy XIV. Granted may be upset at times for different items that may be added to the optional service but these items are novelty or cosmetic items they don't add or detract 2 gameplay. Will this make you a better player now will make you a bad player now this just gives you more item slots for storage no more no less. In other words, a lot of you are overreacting to this.

Again this is OPTIONAL if you don't have a problem managing your storage then kudos to you, then this won't affect you as you will have no need to do it unless you want to.

[Deirdre]

Hi! I'm one of those kids overreacting to this! Guess what, however? I've played XI a very long time and at various times I've had multiple mule characters, so the idea of indirectly paying for storage doesn't matter in that way. Nor is it the money aspect of it.

So...then...why does it leave such a bad taste in my mouth? Because this late in the game, a sudden change of "give us extra money and we'll give you extra things!" terrifies me as a direction. Do you truly believe that if people buy this, that SE will stop pushing things in exchange for cash? Because I watched this exact argument over and over on the XIV forums from the day they added extra retainers for fee. Those of us that are upset are not upset over the money aspect of it; I think the majority of us can easily handle that. But this has a feel to me of SE's company heads asking how they can make XI more profitable, and to begin shifting over to that style of philosophy.

Tl;dr: this late in the game, probably means SE wants to push a cash shop and will continue to add to it if the majority are ok with this.

[Diavolo]

This thread is hilarious specially the kids who leave the game over something optional lol it's amazing.

This is indeed a slippery slope and one I have little doubt SE will continue to exploit if you allow them to. How many other games on the market today charge you $13/month or more as a bare minimum to login and play? How many of those increase their monthly fees for in-game advantages such as this?

As someone else mentioned, using purely cosmetic changes and mounts to bring in some cash is something I can easily get behind, but I'm not paying US $48/year for two extra wardrobes that don't justify the cost at all. Show me that money will be put towards bettering FFXI in the form of a few new development team members and I might change my tune.

[Cesil]

I can't speak for others but I am not giving them a dime extra until they fix these low server population issues.

And yeah..this is only the beginning. But again..I am okay with race change/name/server change services. I think renting out inventory space is kind of a low blow..and no, money is not an issue, its the principle or the matter. Once they realize they can get away with this, wait till you see what they bring next In FFXIV it started off with fantasia, after being promised we could change skin and eye in the barbershop, nope..they took that away and never let us do that..and why? Because people are eager to spend 10 dollars just to change their eye color.

There is a reason they are doing what they are with the mobile game, anyway..all these people supporting it will see soon enough. It's fine if you're okay with it...I am not judging, but just saying...this is gonna take an interesting turn.

[Selindrile]

The only way this would've been acceptable to me is if they announced that the monthly fee was to be done away with, and this were to come with a plethora of other cash shop options. Even then I'd have been somewhat annoyed that inventory was on the cash shop options in the first place rather than simply cosmetic considerations.

Expecting us to pay a full price monthly fee for a 14 year old game with what's likely to be a cash shop on top of it, and starting right in with things that everyone feels like they already need? That just feels really bad... not paying for the wardrobe, and not saying I'm going to quit.. yet... but unless they change their stance on this, I may, and if they do more things of this ilk in the future, I'm definitely gone.

[Kylos]

A one-off transaction is fine. Even more so when it's an expansion, as you're paying for the time they put into making and implementing it. In this case you're paying extra per month for a tiny feature, which is fine for some, but it's an indication of the future for others. If SE 100% guaranteed the extra money would go towards supporting the game, then that would be a selling point .. but at the moment it looks like a money grab. Read the description on the website where it says:

"We've heard from many of you that your bags are getting to be a touch cramped, and hope that the introduction of these optional, fee-based wardrobes will ease the burdens of adventurers who play a variety of jobs with large amounts of equipment."

Firstly, they admit to a fundamental flaw with the game. Then they "hope" this introduction would please those suffering from a flaw created by the developers. Again, they mention the word "burden", which is something they put on the playerbase by adding augmented gear you can't store. They specifically end it by targeting players who play many jobs .. which I'm sure if you played endgame content, know that versatility is encouraged. You are asked to level and gear several different types of jobs if you join an Event LS.

It charges those players, the ones who have many jobs available for events. I love it when I'm making parties and they can switch jobs depending on who shows. Instead of fixing the burden, they charge extra and expect them to appreciate the 160 spaces they should have anyways. By adding this fee, some players may feel discouraged and stick to fewer jobs.

But this isn't about mog lockers entirely, personally I am worried there will be more money grabs in the future. This is not free-to-play, so perhaps they won't, maybe this will be the one money grab aside from server transfers for the following years. If that's the case, then I can live with that.

You know what would make sense? If you got more wardrobe space the more jobs you had on 99. Give us in-game incentive to level and gear all jobs so more players would look at wardrobe 3&4 as a viable option. Wardrobe 5 anyone? At least then, all players would have a maximum of 3 if they level all jobs and decide not to pay extra. At least that would go someway in fixing this "burden".

[Olor]

OMG $2 each?!? That's actually outrageous... $2 total I could see but $4 is stupid.

[OmnysValefor]

No. I will not be purchasing any additional wardrobes. While I am not remotely surprised that this scheme is being presented, I am utterly disgusted.

Do not use the term "optional" when referring to inventory space. It is insulting. Inventory space is paramount in this game and SE is entirely aware of this.

This is a slippery slope. Just stop it.

Quoting in hopes that more people read this..

[Hyrist]

*shurg* I haven't filled one Wardrobe, I doubt I'll fill four. They won't get any additional money from me for this.

I can see people hating this on principle, and don't doubt that they're going to leave. But I wonder how many of us who are silent are going to pick up on this?

As far as people decrying it. It likely wasn't designer's decision so much as it was Marketing's. Designers were looking for a way to fix inventory issues, found a way to expand the use-load on characters and Marketing swooped in and said "What' you're providing them MORE information traffic to the same number of subscribers without any additional payment? Nope. Not happening. We don't live in a stagnant market, friend - bandwidth costs money, and the price is going up." And took two of the four bags they originally had planned.

Would not be surprised that they're going to do more of this to try to cover rising costs. Will it kill the game? Donno, but game is already in its twilight. Marketing is probably trying to recuperate any potential losses development incurs with all these quality of life fixes.

Do I like it personally? Nope, not really. But I understand the market.