Mog Wardrobe 3&4 feedback.

[Morovich]

I was in game complaining about this being a scuzzy thing to do and they pointed out something I hadn't considered. By implementing more storage space they face the very real chance of people cancelling some of their mules because they need less space. The subscription fee for the wardrobes is likely there to offset this problem.

I'm not saying that makes this alright, because I think inventory management is the biggest problem in the game and charging to fix that feels wrong. It is a little more understandable when you think of it in these terms, though. I also think that the price is too high for what you get; the extra wardrobes should cost more than an entire character.

Did you mean shouldn't? Cause the extra wardrobes are $2 each, an extra character is $1 each.

[Castanica]

I will not play their little game, they are already doing it on pretty much all of their other games. I always said to myself that if something like this happened in FFXI I would probably end up leaving.

We are already paying full subscription price for a game that cannot be developped anymore, there is no reason at all we should be paying a penny more for this game considering SE never made any effort to upgrade the game or give it the attention it deserved.
Now I understand why all this augmenting system went completely out of hand, they probably already had this in mind.

To be fair the subscription is less now than it used to be, if you think otherwise you don't understand how inflation works.

[Morovich]

Idk why people are getting upset over this, it's an optional and it's only for gear, equipment not for any other items. Frankly I have more non gear/equipment items then regular gear/equipment items for storage. If you don't want to pay and always make more characters which course should be paying for or pay the two or $4 and have the extra wardrobes for your one character. I see most upset because I feel that it should have been three things that's good well extra stuff probably creates extra expenses no doubt hence they got to charge for the extra storage.

I see someone saying this is like it pay to win frankly I don't think I don't see how having to be able to store more items creates an advantage, that's just me. I am an hoarder of items so if I decide to do it this will be nice, it's only $2 or $4 extra it's no big deal I can always extra storage space.

[Secondplanet]

When have we had a noticeable update to this game? I think this is a slap in the face to all of us who have stood with the game for such a long time. Everyone knows our subscriptions were used to make XIV instead of updating/upgrading XI when they tried throwing Abyssea at us to finish the game off and when XIV bombed they came crawling back to us for more money and more support.

I am far from amused from them holding us doing job ransom with this. If you play 2-3 of the wanted jobs to try to gear up jobs you actually like most of your inventory are being used with the "have to" jobs. I love playing summoner but have cor and geo geared and between all those jobs and gear swaps sets all of my wardrobes are already full and i want to play monk of the side which has to be onhand. I refuse to pay more into a game that has very little support as it is. If our subscriptions went down after Xbox/PS2 support went down i wouldn't mind but we're paying the same fee for 1/3 the service and i'm guessing 1/10 the staff.

[Castanica]

When have we had a noticeable update to this game? I think this is a slap in the face to all of us who have stood with the game for such a long time. Everyone knows our subscriptions were used to make XIV instead of updating/upgrading XI when they tried throwing Abyssea at us to finish the game off and when XIV bombed they came crawling back to us for more money and more support.

I am far from amused from them holding us doing job ransom with this. If you play 2-3 of the wanted jobs to try to gear up jobs you actually like most of your inventory are being used with the "have to" jobs. I love playing summoner but have cor and geo geared and between all those jobs and gear swaps sets all of my wardrobes are already full and i want to play monk of the side which has to be onhand. I refuse to pay more into a game that has very little support as it is. If our subscriptions went down after Xbox/PS2 support went down i wouldn't mind but we're paying the same fee for 1/3 the service and i'm guessing 1/10 the staff.

Just going to point out a few things.

Less players mean less profits overall, the game makes less profit than it used to. If they dropped the sub anymore it would not make any profit and would cease to be worth running. FFXI is a business, it has to run according to rules of a business. Sure it has less developers now but it makes less money than it used to also, everything has to be run within its means.

Nobody needs an extra 2 inventory slots at all, you can function perfectly fine without and swap gear around before you go if you have so many. Teh game is far less gear intensive than it used to be, and it used to have far less space then. They are QoL additions above and beyond.

Inflation and the sub being the same price as it was 12 years ago means the price has in reality dropped quite a lot, you are paying less in real terms than you used to. Every other service we pay for increases every other year or so.

Some are implying that this is something we would of obtained for free, there is no guarantee that if not for it being a paid service we would of had it at all because it does add additional load to the servers and wasn't really needed.

As for very little support. The game is getting monthly updates, what more are you expecting exactly? That's more than ffxiv and wow get.

[xiozen]

Pretty sure Abyssea was created as a "last hurrah" for the game and nothing more was supposed to come. And then we ended up with Seekers. I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up getting a new addon somewhere along the way.

I agree. Looking through milked glasses can sometimes make the most wonderful shapes... in other words, just because it appears to be murky, doesn't mean it's not beautiful.

This "could" be an indication to determine continued interest in game longevity... cause logically speaking if you need more space, you'll be playing more content; perhaps the more folks add space (3&4) can be an indication of the health of the overall games continued longevity which could, theoretically, cause an expansion or two down the road...

[xiozen]

Just going to point out a few things.

Less players mean less profits overall, the game makes less profit than it used to. If they dropped the sub anymore it would not make any profit and would cease to be worth running. FFXI is a business, it has to run according to rules of a business. Sure it has less developers now but it makes less money than it used to also, everything has to be run within its means.

Nobody needs an extra 2 inventory slots at all, you can function perfectly fine without and swap gear around before you go if you have so many. Teh game is far less gear intensive than it used to be, and it used to have far less space then. They are QoL additions above and beyond.

Inflation and the sub being the same price as it was 12 years ago means the price has in reality dropped quite a lot, you are paying less in real terms than you used to. Every other service we pay for increases every other year or so.

Some are implying that this is something we would of obtained for free, there is no guarantee that if not for it being a paid service we would of had it at all because it does add additional load to the servers and wasn't really needed.

As for very little support. The game is getting monthly updates, what more are you expecting exactly? That's more than ffxiv and wow get.

Thumbs up. Excellent points all around.

[Olor]

I feel like the game is already pretty darn expensive. Given the tiny updates we're getting right now, the price is a bit ridiculous, especially for Canadians who are forced to pay in American dollars.

STILL: I will pay to unlock these wardrobes for sure because I know it will make playing more fun for me. What it likely means is I will drop my sub more often and play less consistently because unless I have the time to put a lot of hours into the game the price just isn't worth it.

[Castanica]

I feel like the game is already pretty darn expensive. Given the tiny updates we're getting right now, the price is a bit ridiculous, especially for Canadians who are forced to pay in American dollars.

STILL: I will pay to unlock these wardrobes for sure because I know it will make playing more fun for me. What it likely means is I will drop my sub more often and play less consistently because unless I have the time to put a lot of hours into the game the price just isn't worth it.

You do? $3 a week for how many hours entertainment? I can't think of any other game that offers even small updates for that price. Ever single player game I play that offers dlc gives far less for far more money.

[Secondplanet]

Less players mean less profits overall, the game makes less profit than it used to. If they dropped the sub anymore it would not make any profit and would cease to be worth running. FFXI is a business, it has to run according to rules of a business. Sure it has less developers now but it makes less money than it used to also, everything has to be run within its means.

While the price hasn't gone up it hasn't gone down either when the drop of PS2/XBOX support, 1/3 of the resources should atleast lower the cost to play.

Nobody needs an extra 2 inventory slots at all, you can function perfectly fine without and swap gear around before you go if you have so many. Teh game is far less gear intensive than it used to be, and it used to have far less space then. They are QoL additions above and beyond.

Far less intense then it use to be? last i check back in the good old days monsters didn't spam AoE's every 5 seconds and have instant death moves out the backside, Also many jobs were able to survive AoE attacks but now need a set alone to survive it.

Inflation and the sub being the same price as it was 12 years ago means the price has in reality dropped quite a lot, you are paying less in real terms than you used to. Every other service we pay for increases every other year or so.

As for inflation simple calculations would show the difference is a couple of bucks from when the game had FULL support to almost none now. So you want us to pay more then the original sub fee after inflation to have some extra space minus the support?

Some are implying that this is something we would of obtained for free, there is no guarantee that if not for it being a paid service we would of had it at all because it does add additional load to the servers and wasn't really needed.

SE decided to make this game really focus on gear swapping, they brought about this problem not the players, If players could combine their AF/Relic/Empy gear sets then sure but no attempts have been made to forge gear together but lots has been made to increase gear needed.

As for very little support. The game is getting monthly updates, what more are you expecting exactly? That's more than ffxiv and wow get.

Month updates? They change some monsters in Ambuscade, change the monster in Master Trial and switch which premade event the wheel of destiny spins on. Almost everything done recently can be done with a click of a mouse. Jobs have been unbalanced for such a long time and not many attempts to fix it.