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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixela View Post
    When I suggested the devs should make getting job points easier for the first 100 points, I was told how much harder it used to be and should stay as it is.

    I'll follow suit, why should these be made easier just for you? People have and are making them now so it's obviously not a problem! :P
    Ok, first, I have no idea what you are talking about.

    Second I (We) are not asking to make it easier just for me. We are asking to bring GEO and RUN ultimate weapons on par with the other jobs ultimate weapons. Do you realize they literally reduced the timer of everything (Dyna, Assault, etc) in this game but Coalitions?

    You could probably make half of the available Mystics by the time you are ready to start GEO or RUN questline.
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    Last edited by Jin_Uzuki; 05-14-2016 at 03:40 AM.

  2. #22
    Player Rydal's Avatar
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    What's worse is that RUN and GEO only have one other legendary weapon option, which is Aeonic. Unless they make Relic or Empyrean weapons available to GEO and RUN (and the post RoZ jobs for Relics), any RUN or GEO has to wait 6 months to start their quest, while, As Jin has pointed out, every other job can bust out multiple legendary weapons in the same amount of time (PLD could make 2 Relics, their Mythic and be well into their Empyrean if they're not finished it by then).

    Weren't they going to make Empyrean weapons (or at least the weaponskills) available to RUN and GEO?
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  3. #23
    Player detlef's Avatar
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    All I want is for them to glow.
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  4. #24
    Player Helldemon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydal View Post
    As Jin has pointed out, every other job can bust out multiple legendary weapons in the same amount of time (PLD could make 2 Relics, their Mythic and be well into their Empyrean if they're not finished it by then).
    Sure, if they play 18 hours a day and do nothing but Dynamis, Salvage and Voidwatch...

    At least for Idris though you could argue it's worth four REMA anyways because it's just that broken.
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  5. #25
    Player Eckamus's Avatar
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    Seems no love in the June update for coalition adjustments, but Relics can now be made in ~6 hours time. As long as you have the items and currency on hand. Not a overly huge reduction as prior wait time was only about 12 days I believe.

    I am just hoping that the new quest, that is also locked behind a 6 month wait time, isn't something involved with coalition recharge rate. Since you need every coalition assignment completed as part of the requirement to even start the quest.
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  6. #26
    Player Helldemon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eckamus View Post
    Seems no love in the June update for coalition adjustments, but Relics can now be made in ~6 hours time. As long as you have the items and currency on hand. Not a overly huge reduction as prior wait time was only about 12 days I believe.

    I am just hoping that the new quest, that is also locked behind a 6 month wait time, isn't something involved with coalition recharge rate. Since you need every coalition assignment completed as part of the requirement to even start the quest.
    So how far along are you in your Ergon weapon now?
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  7. #27
    Player OmnysValefor's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helldemon View Post
    So how far along are you in your Ergon weapon now?
    http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Valefor/Eckamus

    He's been there, done that. I don't know him, but I've played with him on a few occasions.
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  8. #28
    Player Eckamus's Avatar
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    I have both Ergon weapons myself, thanks mainly due the Wildskeeper Reive events, but there are others that have returned to the game and would like to do a Idris or Epeolatry and are turned off by the coaltions. Some to the point of not even wanting to do them. It may be that they think they may get bored and not be playing in 6 months or something like that. This is the main reason I am advocating for a reduced imprimatur or adjusted Coalition rank up method. To fall in line with all the other reductions they have made to Mythic and now Relic weapons and wait times. Basically Ergon weapons are the only ones left that have the original gateway locking their acquisition.

    Looking in other threads, it has been stated twice that they were looking into reducing the recharge rate or changing the rate of coalition rank up. The first was a year ago today.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grekumah View Post
    We'll consider adding a key item bonus you can obtain through Rhapsodies of Vana'diel that will reduce the recharge time of Imprimaturs.
    The second time was about 2 months ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    We're still looking into making adjustments to make it easier to increase Coalition ranks. However, we are planning to make this completely separate from the bonuses gained through Rhapsodies key items. I'll make a follow-up again once there is more information from the development team.
    It is something that they are aware of, but haven't ever implemented, sadly.
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  9. #29
    Player Helldemon's Avatar
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    I guess I just think people should put some time into the most powerful weapon in the game. I could see some reduction in recharge time, halve maybe? So 3 months, I think people asking to be able to get it in less then a month is silly though imo. Anyone that wasn't around during a WKR campaign is still going to need a lot of time to acquire all that HP Bayld(unless they are rich) and the coalition assignments get you a decent amount of bayld.
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  10. #30
    Player OmnysValefor's Avatar
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    Time by effort is fine, time by arbitrary delays (slow recharging) is silly.

    RME (especially mythics) required time. Ergon requires waiting more than time invested.
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