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    Player CrAZYVIC's Avatar
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    I think the only way of balance the jobs.

    Example

    Red Mage, Corsair and BRD.

    RDM. Attack/RA. Attack 30%. Accuracy/Ra.Accuracy 20%. MA acc +15% / MA Att + 20%. Can use 1 Buff and One Debuff.

    Corsair. 3 Dices by default Instead of 2. Unlocking M/E/A Any "Lv75" Legendary weapon, Unlocks 4 Dices and the ability of Stack same Dice x2. Example X2 chaos Roll, X2 hunter Roll etc.

    Bard. 3 Songs Default Instead of 2 and Song duration 90 Seconds More. Unlocking any R/M/E/A lv75 unlocks 4 Songs and duration + 90 Seconds + Potency of All Buffs +10%.

    To avoid People Exploit the System. Max Amount of Dices per party 4, Max Amount of Songs per party 4, Max Amount of RDM Buff/Debuff 1/1, Max amount Geo buff/debuff 1/1.

    Put Something like this in the Test server 1 Month. Then ask for Feedback to the Playerbase, after all the Feedback received here add the Buff and Keep testing to see if the situation changed. If this work Nexth patch Two-Handers, etc.

    Like other people said here. The difference between some jobs its brutal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrAZYVIC View Post
    Bard. 3 Songs Default Instead of 2 and Song duration 90 Seconds More. Unlocking any R/M/E/A lv75 unlocks 4 Songs and duration + 90 Seconds + Potency of All Buffs +10%.

    To avoid People Exploit the System. Max Amount of Dices per party 4, Max Amount of Songs per party 4, Max Amount of RDM Buff/Debuff 1/1, Max amount Geo buff/debuff 1/1.

    Put Something like this in the Test server 1 Month. Then ask for Feedback to the Playerbase, after all the Feedback received here add the Buff and Keep testing to see if the situation changed. If this work Nexth patch Two-Handers, etc.
    How would this be fair to those of us that are already 4 song brds? If all brds got 3 songs native and limited to 4 max. Also BRD burn parties were fun back in the day, I'd love to get together with 5 other brds, 2 brd /war, 2 /whm, 2 /nin and have up to 24 songs active(if all are 4 song brds).

    Also the test server is no longer available. Yes its still an option to click in the menu but the server is gone, so testing is not an option.

    My solution to how to fix brd(i've been a brd for 12 years now) is to uncap our songs hard cap and redo how the calculation of the potency of each songs power is determined. The easiest solution is to change our singing, wind, and string skill from C to A+. We are the only job to have instrument skill. Yes geomancer have C skill for handbell and geomancy but the nature of how their spells are calculated is by percent, versus the static values of brd.

    If rather not change the base skill, the formula for the songs needs to be recalculated to help lessen the gap between brds buff power and geomancer.
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    Last edited by VoiceMemo; 04-30-2016 at 09:15 AM.

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    Player Secondplanet's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by VoiceMemo View Post
    My solution to how to fix brd(i've been a brd for 12 years now) is to uncap our songs hard cap and redo how the calculation of the potency of each songs power is determined. The easiest solution is to change our singing, wind, and string skill from C to A+. We are the only job to have instrument skill. Yes geomancer have C skill for handbell and geomancy but the nature of how their spells are calculated is by percent, versus the static values of brd.
    Summoner has the same issues with old hard caps on our bloodpact wards. Most are stuck at lvl 75 stats which today are not even worth the mp needed to cast. As for raising the skill stat from C to A+ would break abit of balance as you would be having 2 A+ stats as the base for every song cast. While smn only has a A- ranking for summoning magic which is summoners one and only magic skill so never understood that. I could see bard going from C to maybe B+ or A- and Geo going to A at most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondplanet View Post
    Summoner has the same issues with old hard caps on our bloodpact wards. Most are stuck at lvl 75 stats which today are not even worth the mp needed to cast. As for raising the skill stat from C to A+ would break abit of balance as you would be having 2 A+ stats as the base for every song cast. While smn only has a A- ranking for summoning magic which is summoners one and only magic skill so never understood that. I could see bard going from C to maybe B+ or A- and Geo going to A at most.
    Well perhaps gear then that would raise our stat level more than the individual wind skill, string skill, singing skill, along the lines of the Incanter's Torque, but for say All song skills +X amount and removal of the hard caps. In this way base brd would not be OP but a well geared brd could be.
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    Player dmuller30's Avatar
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    That would be awesome if they did add our suggestions to a test server so that way we could try it and send our feedback on what we did and didn't like. Several jobs still need a face lift.
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    Player VoiceMemo's Avatar
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    The test server is no more, even though the link to "play on test server" is there, it was suspended a few years ago and never reopened.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...server+closure
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    Last edited by VoiceMemo; 05-04-2016 at 11:18 AM.

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    THF/NIN is still the best job... -_-
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