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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post

    If you reduced it to one server, it would definitely be overcrowded. Two would probably restore the populations of yesteryear per server.
    You really think people are advocating to dump all players into one giant server? wtf

    AND you have half of them running around with parties of trusts, the servers might explode or your FPS will be horrible.
    Again with trusts. You think people are constantly using trusts all the time? People don't summon trusts every time they enter into a zone, especially level 99 players. You are being pedantic.
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    You should just pay for a server swap, you can complain and complain while being angry but they aren't going to do it because it gives out negative press that the games are doing poorly. You have to look at it like this, what's more important saving some money or being annoyed?

    I'm not looking to make you annoyed by saying this, I'm just being a realist. They aren't going to do it, here or on their other games.

    Oh and to the person saying FPS will be horrible because of the trusts, you can turn off trusts.

    Arguments however are irrelevant because they won't do merges.
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    You really think people are advocating to dump all players into one giant server? wtf
    No, I don't think that. But believe it or not, it HAS been suggested.

    Again with trusts. You think people are constantly using trusts all the time?
    Again with the trusts, yes. Because YES, people DO use them all the time. Maybe you need to put your glasses on or something? It's something most of us use on a regular basis.

    They aren't going to do it, here or on their other games.
    Well it's not like they haven't done merges in the past... but I think they don't want the publicity that comes with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin_Uzuki View Post
    I don't see how.

    The game used to have players everywhere. There were thousands of players everywhere. People used to fight for Sky spots. Valkrum was filled with exp parties.

    And yet the game worked wonderfully.

    "trusts" is a poop excuse, if it's one. Some servers are a literally deserts. The game doesn't have milions of players anymore.
    That was a different time, Sky LS's use to have to find a specific time that not many people where doing their own event and go once or twice a weeks for a couple hours.

    After the last merge the server had 4-5k on prime time and that caused issues as is. People couldn't load into jeuno because it was so overcrowded, The population actually caused a lot of problems for the game. right now my server looks like 600-1100 depending on time of day. If there was going to be a merge i honestly could only see 2 servers merging. With the state of the game right now with many people soloing with trusts, Escha and reisinjima will both be overcrowded there are already issues that sometimes most the pop spots in reisinjima are taken due to small manning and soloers. Even the high battlefields i have tried going to them and can't enter because they are full. You add another server to it then it will cause a lot of back lash. The game isn't what it use to be years ago. Content scales much harder the more people you have with no extra reward so its actually better to bring as little as you need. (easier fights and less competition) other than the High tier battlefields which felt like the better system. Harder by option and more reward by difficulty and doesn't scale by number of people.

    Anyway, that is the state of the game right now and got to stop thinking its back in 2008 or before that cause that isn't the game no more and with trusts and being able to solo and low man most fights we actually can't have huge server populations without there being a lot of backlash from doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Masisive exaggeration. I'v enever seen thousands of players in a single area, even near the game's release. hundreds, yes. but not thousands of players "everywhere." one to two thousand spread across the entire server, yes- and that was enough to have miserable frame rates in any high traffic location. If we merge the servers to where the resulting ones have the same populations as the days of yore, AND you have half of them running around with parties of trusts, the servers might explode or your FPS will be horrible.
    There would be over 8-9,000 accounts simultaneously online on Cerberus back during the Wings of the Goddess days and it's always been one of the servers with lower populations, so those of you sweating over the thought of having more than 500-600 active accounts online at any given time need to stop and think things through a bit. Yes, the game has changed to be more suitable to the lower numbers, but that in no way makes it incapable of hosting thousands of players simultaneously again. Asura isn't all that far off and people are still using it as the go-to world when transferring, which should tell you something: the higher population numbers are something that draws players in. No one should want to pay $13/month to play a massively multiplayer online RPG that plays more like a single player RPG.

    As for the trusts, a server with a healthier population will have less of them running around just by virtue of parties being filled with actual players, and even then there's a handy little command you can use to make them disappear: /hidetrust on.

    SE could merge the remaining 16 servers into 4 very easily without making a negative impact on our regular day to day life so long as they were mindful of the activity of NA, EU and JP players on each server. For example, you wouldn't merge 4 servers that were all NA-heavy together or you'd just wind up with a lopsided mess of 2-2.5K active accounts during peak hours and a really quiet overnight/morning period. Ideally they'd be merging servers together where the demographics compliment each other. We all get healthier populations back where it's easier to meet new people, form parties, buy/sell items, and SE gets the benefit of reduced server costs/maintenance in the process. It's win/win.
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    Not everybody wants server merges. I like having little or no competition for spawn points and XP spots. I like being able to do Salvage and Nyzul whenever I want to with no delays. I like being able to target Quetz before it dies. All the content is focused around 6-man PTs anyway.

    Have people tried server hopping to Asura? I hear it's a lovely place.
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    Many of the most active people on Small servers, like myself.
    Like the low server population! It means it's easier to farm dyna (No Competition), No Alex Competition, no battlefield lock outs etc etc etc.

    strictly speaking here, yeah few more people would be nice. But i personally wouldnt be able to stand the high population of Asura. I can barely stand sylph at peak times. Why would i want to add another 700+ people to that mix.

    And bare in mind OP, your server pop is JP peak time. It's much quieter NA/EU Peak times. Besides i wouldn't care anyways, i'm in a position where i know everyone on the server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    Not everybody wants server merges. I like having little or no competition for spawn points and XP spots. I like being able to do Salvage and Nyzul whenever I want to with no delays. I like being able to target Quetz before it dies. All the content is focused around 6-man PTs anyway.

    Have people tried server hopping to Asura? I hear it's a lovely place.
    Sarcasm?

    I like seeing players being able to XP or tackle 6 person content like Sinister Reign without needing hours to set it up. I like having a somewhat decent supply of Salvage/Dynamis/Adoulin currency available for sale on the server. I like seeing more than just myself at Azi/Naga/Quetz. All the content is focused around 6 person parties, but why leave it at that?

    I look at it like this, those playing on the majority of underpopulated servers are more likely to call it quits than they are to spend $18 to move to Odin or Asura. I've seen more than my fair share of returning players lose interest quickly because of how difficult it was to find help for older content. Having to find new XP locations or team up with others trying to tackle the same NMs you are isn't a negative to me, it's a positive.

    Expand your friends list, expand your horizons, see that there are still enough players logging in today in 2016 to make the game as interesting as it was back in 2003-2004, but see that it can't be done with 16 servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    Sarcasm?

    I like seeing players being able to XP or tackle 6 person content like Sinister Reign without needing hours to set it up. I like having a somewhat decent supply of Salvage/Dynamis/Adoulin currency available for sale on the server. I like seeing more than just myself at Azi/Naga/Quetz. All the content is focused around 6 person parties, but why leave it at that?

    I look at it like this, those playing on the majority of underpopulated servers are more likely to call it quits than they are to spend $18 to move to Odin or Asura. I've seen more than my fair share of returning players lose interest quickly because of how difficult it was to find help for older content. Having to find new XP locations or team up with others trying to tackle the same NMs you are isn't a negative to me, it's a positive.

    Expand your friends list, expand your horizons, see that there are still enough players logging in today in 2016 to make the game as interesting as it was back in 2003-2004, but see that it can't be done with 16 servers.
    No, I'm not being sarcastic. In many ways, you and I are vastly different people. You seem to enjoy shouts and pick-up groups, but that's not a point of emphasis for everybody.

    When you mention not being able to find help with older content, I'm going to assume you're talking about older Adoulin content like Skirmish, Delve, and SR. I'm with you there, it sucks not being able to fill a group for those. I just think the solution is to transfer to a more populous server, not to merge all servers.

    I believe there have been times when the transfer fee was cut in half so if SE permanently lowered the fee and designated a few high population servers, then maybe everybody would be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post

    Again with the trusts, yes. Because YES, people DO use them all the time. Maybe you need to put your glasses on or something? It's something most of us use on a regular basis.
    People use trust when they need it.

    "Oh, I walked into this level 50 zone with my level 99 chara. Better summon August and Apururu even though I'm zoning in 3 minutes for the lulz"

    Anyway, "playable NPC" is a stupid motive. (if it's a reason, I seriously doubt SE even condier it)

    And maybe people wouldn't use trusts so much if they could get a damn CP party going on more often. Apex spots are plentiful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aisu View Post
    Anyway, that is the state of the game right now and got to stop thinking its back in 2008 or before that cause that isn't the game no more and with trusts and being able to solo and low man most fights we actually can't have huge server populations without there being a lot of backlash from doing so.
    Yes, I'm sure people will be soooo mad they can now get a party for T1 or Hard Mode fights easily instead of shouting for hours hoping someone bored will jump in so.

    Sooooo mad!

    Does this game even have enough players for a "lot of backlash" anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post

    Have people tried server hopping to Asura? I hear it's a lovely place.
    And now we got the MMORPG player who doesn't like MMORPG. I thought they were all on XIV or something.

    Have you tried single player games? I hear they are lovely and there is no competition.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlina View Post
    Many of the most active people on Small servers, like myself.
    Like the low server population! It means it's easier to farm dyna (No Competition), No Alex Competition, no battlefield lock outs etc etc etc.

    strictly speaking here, yeah few more people would be nice. But i personally wouldnt be able to stand the high population of Asura. I can barely stand sylph at peak times. Why would i want to add another 700+ people to that mix.

    And bare in mind OP, your server pop is JP peak time. It's much quieter NA/EU Peak times. Besides i wouldn't care anyways, i'm in a position where i know everyone on the server.
    First of all, "high population Asura" probably doesn't even have 1/3 of the player it used to have in 2007 or so, so much for high population.

    Second, there were 600 player during Sylph peak time yesterday. 600 PLAYERS DURING PEAK TIME IN A MMORPG. Half of them were AFK in Adoulin and port Jeuno.

    Even looking at the shouts today, there has been 1 shout for relevant content from in 5 hours.

    I'm sorry, but if you cannot stand it, the problem it's on your end.
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