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    Player Elexia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaelle View Post
    I always wished BLU breath spells were a legitimate tactic if properly geared for, but it never was back in the pre-abyssea days (to my knowledge) and hasn't been since I came back post-Adoulin. It would be cool to be a breath powerhouse though. There's so many BLU spells that were incredibly useless, it's a shame.
    Despite what certain (salty) people feel, BLU has been fairly broken in a weird way since its implementation. It's "OP" now because what job isn't OP in some fashion on relevant content since the ilvl introduction? Take someone no where near ilvl for current content and see how well they do versus someone at ilvl for the content (e.g someone with only 800 accuracy and no gifts/job points versus someone capped off.)

    Breath Spells had only 1 use: Killing Tarus in Ballista/Brenner. MP cost for the damage and additional effects doesn't match up. BLU is very balanced in that sense, while you can 'spam strong spells' the more technical spells cost a hefty amount of mp, have long cast times and doesn't scale at all. It's like if you were to use your Cure I-VI and it didn't scale beyond what you'd cure for naked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Despite what certain (salty) people feel, BLU has been fairly broken in a weird way since its implementation. It's "OP" now because what job isn't OP in some fashion on relevant content since the ilvl introduction? Take someone no where near ilvl for current content and see how well they do versus someone at ilvl for the content (e.g someone with only 800 accuracy and no gifts/job points versus someone capped off.)
    It's a shame you can say this, and not understand BST feels the same way. And the BST ability that was nerfed was one we had since day one. I guess it's the same way you call BSTs whiners for not liking a nerf, but apparently, those CRYING for the nerf aren't?

    I will say BLU does have a lot of useless spells, but by the same token, it has an incredible array of spells to begin with. I wouldn't care if SE changed this though.
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    Last edited by kylani; 09-29-2015 at 02:12 AM.

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    I have the feeling BLU will be the next on the hate list of the "Nerf that OP job"-fraction. There are so many paralells to BST.
    Like BST it's very versatile and relativ safe. Less safe than BST was, but therefore it deals more damage. It got buff after buff until it reached OP status. BST is out of the shootline now, just wait some month and watch.

    Btw, i play both jobs, and i like both of them. Just wish they would calculate BEFORE they buff a job to avoid what happened to BST now, call it how you like it: unplayable, not fun to play, ridiculous, or whatever.
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    Last edited by Arthos; 09-29-2015 at 02:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthos View Post
    I have the feeling BLU will be the next on the hate list of the "Nerf that OP job"-fraction. There are so many paralells to BST.
    Like BST it's very versatile and relativ safe. Less safe than BST was, but therefore it deals more damage. It got buff after buff until it reached OP status. BST is out of the shootline now, just wait some month and watch.

    Btw, i play both jobs, and i like both of them. Just wish they would calculate BEFORE they buff a job to avoid what happened to BST now, call it how you like it: unplayable, not fun to play, ridiculous, or whatever.
    TBF if BST needed to be nerfed so to does BLU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    TBF if BST needed to be nerfed so to does BLU.
    If BST needed to be nerfed, BLU needs to be nerfed a hundred times over. Throw the 100 and 1200 job point gifts on top of that, and it's so mindbogglingly insane it hurts my brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machini View Post
    If BST needed to be nerfed, BLU needs to be nerfed a hundred times over. Throw the 100 and 1200 job point gifts on top of that, and it's so mindbogglingly insane it hurts my brain.
    But it's alot fun to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machini View Post
    If BST needed to be nerfed, BLU needs to be nerfed a hundred times over. Throw the 100 and 1200 job point gifts on top of that, and it's so mindbogglingly insane it hurts my brain.
    BST wasn't nerfed though. They changed the range, they didn't change anything else about it. BLU has a ton of useless spells and many spells that aren't used due to high MP costs/long cast time/EXTREMELY low damage on any relevant content. This is what I mean by saltiness. "You nerf us..NERF THIS JOB! NERF THEM! NERF THEM!"

    You said; "Throw the 100 and 1200 job point gifts ontop of..."

    I said this before I'll say it again - Throw a Blue Mage who last played in 2009 into the ring with a Blue Mage who is up to date in say, Escha on a T1 NM. Parse them. See who does well, see who does better. BLU mage is "OP" like any other job in the game is currently if you're in current ilvl/superior and capped on gifts. Blue Mage in particular requires A LOT to get "OP" because it's not a simple level blu, profit.
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    They don't want Blu to get nerfed. They say IF Bst needs nerf, so does Blu too. It's a difference.
    It's also right, if there would be a OP scale, they were on the same level. And Blu is NOT harder to build. Some days more for spellfarming, thats it. Therefore it doesnt cost you gil all the time.
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    BST wasn't nerfed though. They changed the range, they didn't change anything else about it.
    Oh okay, that's not a nerf, yep.

    In the meantime, I suppose if WHM Cure range suddenly became 7 yalms tomorrow (only to WHM btw; every other class could still Cure from 21') you wouldn't be calling that a nerf to WHM, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Oh okay, that's not a nerf, yep.

    In the meantime, I suppose if WHM Cure range suddenly became 7 yalms tomorrow (only to WHM btw; every other class could still Cure from 21') you wouldn't be calling that a nerf to WHM, either.
    I'd be more curious as to why they'd make that unrealistic change.
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