lolRelic Weapon? SE what have you done?

[DrStrangelove]

Just to reply to a few of the posts here, please do not make up ideas on how weapons MIGHT have been obtained to determine the ease. Yes, its possible to get anything relatively easy if you are willing to cheat. That's not really the point of the thread.

Empys are being created in a matter of weeks all the way to level 90 without buying gil or cheating. Those who read the forums know this is true. It's not true that you can build a relic or mythic in weeks (outside of cheating) and in fact most of them took many months or even a year to make.

SE created the hard work for relic and mythic and the high cost in order to make them rare. Then SE created the WS kill shot method to upgrade them with thousands of mob kills (all requiring what were often weak weapon skills.) Trust me...doing 6-8,000 kill-shots is what many relic owners did.

Then SE created empys and magians...weapons which could be obtained EASILY by a small group of people at no cost. (Actually, some today are being duo-ed or two boxed.) These are weapons that across the board beat out relics and mythics by 10-40% in damage. It WAS a HUGE deal in 2006 when someone had 2 or 3 relics. Today in a matter of months, multiple people have 4 or 5 level 90 empyreans. Others have bunches of level 90 magians, each of which beat relics in abyssea and match them outside of abyssea.

Relics should have been heavily buffed and so should mythics. It's simply dumb founding that this is not obvious to SE. It doesn't matter that they actually do more damage. They should have some attributes (slightly less damage but MUCH stronger defense wise) which would justify the investment.

(And to NOW make relics easy to obtain simply spits all over the people who worked hard in 2004-2009 to get either weapon.)

[Kitheren]

Just to reply to a few of the posts here, please do not make up ideas on how weapons MIGHT have been obtained to determine the ease. Yes, its possible to get anything relatively easy if you are willing to cheat. That's not really the point of the thread.

Who said anything about cheating??

[DrStrangelove]

Who said anything about cheating??

The FIRST reply to the OP. And several after that.

[Kitheren]

The FIRST reply to the OP. And several after that.

Oh, I forgot. I tend to put posts suggesting cheating or other such things out of my mind or ignore them completely.

The way I suggested is pretty fast although it could still take up to a year or more depending on what drops and the price on said currency.

Just wish the relics could stand proud against the empyrean weapons. The work my husband and I did getting his up to 85 took months. Those kill shots with Catastrophe were horrible.

[Niklz]

All I care about is why some Empyrean Weapons are so much more difficult to obtain than others. Canyon path versus, any others <.<

[Xilk]

(And to NOW make relics easy to obtain simply spits all over the people who worked hard in 2004-2009 to get either weapon.)

It doesn't spit on anyone. You have your relic. You have had your epeen. The game does not promise you social status for having a relic weapon. SE has never promised Relics will always be the best. You have had things no one else had at the time. The game changes and evolves. It is an MMO. There is no entitlement.

[Tidon]

It doesn't spit on anyone. You have your relic. You have had your epeen. The game does not promise you social status for having a relic weapon. SE has never promised Relics will always be the best. You have had things no one else had at the time. The game changes and evolves. It is an MMO. There is no entitlement.

Not true, i remember reading somewhere on playonline.com when mythic came out, they said that relic will be always top

[Sama]

It doesn't spit on anyone. You have your relic. You have had your epeen. The game does not promise you social status for having a relic weapon.

Imagine you have spent the time and effort for getting a relic and it turns out to be an laughable subject at the end and that, immediately destroy the purpose regardless the item rareness.

For most relic owner, rareness is one thing, an item showing dedication is another.

Think about it, most relic owner runs Dyna to get coins: getting a group, wait for the event, spend countless hours in dyna zone getting coins AND your relic AF; making it a win-win situation for those who focus of relic weapon and dyna AF and that, really makes the game fun.

Just do the math, getting enough currency for 1 relic weapon, how many AFs the group will received at the end? How many players walked out dyna happily and willing to continue with the adventure? This really drives the game AND helps SE establish the developer-player relations.

People who have worked so hard on the relic SHOULD deserve the end-game-like characteristics (i.e. damage).

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My thoughts:

The way SE has done IS 100% spit on face with no respect AND thoughtful consideration. I wonder who made that decision... SE Japan or NA/EU?... I got a feeling that it's definitely not someone who have spent a year or so on one item in a game... Or someone who doesn't even play the game at all (a dolphin?) If relic weapon is so weak now why do I even run/lead dyna????? I can't think of anything else besides selling coins for profit which may promote RMT gil selling/buying...

Making Emp Wpn so powerful seems to me is just a marketing decision to make people come back / join the game for the last moment of FFIX. But, I foresee, this is actually destroying the game faster because things are so off balance and easy, and the worst is people are having much negative feedback after all AND those dedicated players for the past 7-8 years lost trust in SE.

What have you done SE?

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