PS2 and Xbox 360 FFXI shutdown

[Zeargi]

Porting the game to a more current console would require them to invest more resources. The last time they did it, the game was 4 years old, in 2006, not 13 years old, with most of the old devs still available for the port. DQX and FFXIV, both are younger games, and would be better to invest in porting.

I know it's more than likely not going to happen, they have FFXIV on the PS4 already, and it's the new flavor of MMO with the FF brand. I was just saying that I would personally enjoy the broadening of people that could join the game.

[Castanica]

Porting the game to a more current console would require them to invest more resources. The last time they did it, the game was 4 years old, in 2006, not 13 years old, with most of the old devs still available for the port. DQX and FFXIV, both are younger games, and would be better to invest in porting.

You guys need to stop using age as a negative, the 2 most powerful and massive mmo titles in the world are world of warcraft and lineage 1. Both of these games are of a similar age, nothing new even holds a tiny flame to these games. I can't think of one single modern mmo that is anywhere near as successful as old titles.

The problem is that Square did a simple calculation, they removed all console players from the subscriber base and calculated that the amount of money they would make from subs from what is left was not enough to make the programming rework worth while.

It doesn't matter that FFXI is one of their most profitable games ever, they only care about money now.

As such, if players and Square accepted f2p it would not be so easy for them to do a simple number crunch and see the game as no longer being viable. The behemoth outfits show they can make cosmetics, so why not sell those in a cash shop? People will buy them.

FFXI players and the developer not wanting to evolve will lead to the death and removal of Vanadiel from the gaming world forever in a couple of years, which is incredibly sad

[vienne]

Why did you even start 2 threads to advertise your f2p idea? You really have a strange fascination with the words "death" and "evolve".... I really dont enjoy being rude, but please, just go play your awesome f2p games. Starting another topic on exactly the same subject like your other f2p thread but giving it a vaguely different title is just low and makes me wonder bout the average IQ of our playerbase. You have planted your seeds give it time and see what grows of it.
You say things as "save the glory or w/e of ffxi lets go f2p" Sorry, but the glory of fffxi is partially the fact that it is not f2p.
If ffxi has to go nothing will stop that, not even a cashshop. I'd rather see the game die the way i've always known it then that it would cater to the f2p locust and get its life stretched till the next shinie game with big breasts and cosmetic buyables is released.

[Castanica]

Why did you even start 2 threads to advertise your f2p idea? You really have a strange fascination with the words "death" and "evolve".... I really dont enjoy being rude, but please, just go play your awesome f2p games. Starting another topic on exactly the same subject like your other f2p thread but giving it a vaguely different title is just low and makes me wonder bout the average IQ of our playerbase. You have planted your seeds give it time and see what grows of it.
You say things as "save the glory or w/e of ffxi lets go f2p" Sorry, but the glory of fffxi is partially the fact that it is not f2p.
If ffxi has to go nothing will stop that, not even a cashshop. I'd rather see the game die the way i've always known it then that it would cater to the f2p locust and get its life stretched till the next shinie game with big breasts and cosmetic buyables is released.

Why are you afraid of my opinion?

The general section of this forum gets about 5 posts a day so why does my opinion bother you so much? Don't read it if you don't like it?

However at the end of the day unless ffxi changes it will go the way of pso, in that it will no longer exist in a pretty short amount of time. Players that would rather see a game die than for it to change are not fans of a game at all.

[Zeargi]

However at the end of the day unless ffxi changes it will go the way of pso, in that it will no longer exist in a pretty short amount of time. Players that would rather see a game die than for it to change are not fans of a game at all.

"If you love something let it go." I am not a fan of f2p or Pay to Win games. The thing that makes this game amazing is that the field starts steep, but eventually levels out as you grow. I buy a game to play it, not be nickled and dimed at content that should be included - I.E.: EA Sports and Ubisoft. Preserving something as a complete entity versus raping and whoring it out, is a far greater love and respect for the game.

[Isal]

Between Grand Masters and FFXI mobile, Vana'diel is unlikely to "disappear foreverz" and/or "die". Like it or not, even if Grand Masters never makes it outside of Japan and FFXI got scrubbed, Vana'diel would still technically exist. I could even take the sappy route and talk about how it'll live on in the memories of its fans and the stories they've told and will likely continue to tell online.

If you feel that these mobile games don't "count" and that memories aren't enough, well, I respect your opinion and those who share it, but that's really all we're left with: our opinions. In the end, FFXI is Square Enix's property and they have every right to do with it as they see fit.

[Castanica]

"If you love something let it go." I am not a fan of f2p or Pay to Win games. The thing that makes this game amazing is that the field starts steep, but eventually levels out as you grow. I buy a game to play it, not be nickled and dimed at content that should be included - I.E.: EA Sports and Ubisoft. Preserving something as a complete entity versus raping and whoring it out, is a far greater love and respect for the game.

The vast majority of f2p games are not p2w, they simply sell outfits.

It boils down to how much you trust Square Enix, it seems you don't trust them at all?

Between Grand Masters and FFXI mobile, Vana'diel is unlikely to "disappear foreverz" and/or "die". Like it or not, even if Grand Masters never makes it outside of Japan and FFXI got scrubbed, Vana'diel would still technically exist. I could even take the sappy route and talk about how it'll live on in the memories of its fans and the stories they've told and will likely continue to tell online.

If you feel that these mobile games don't "count" and that memories aren't enough, well, I respect your opinion and those who share it, but that's really all we're left with: our opinions. In the end, FFXI is Square Enix's property and they have every right to do with it as they see fit.

A phone app game will be like FFXI in name only, you've played current gen phone games right?

The point is why knowingly take a stance on something that will kill the game, if you care enough about it not want it to have a cash shop attached then should you care more to stop it dissapearing for good? When ffxi is closes will you go play ffxiv because I can tell you right now there is no game that plays like ffxi in existence, so it's this or wow type mmo titles. If you do move to ffxiv you will enjoy the cash shop it has?

We aren't talking about 4 years ago when ffxi was a solid game and players could afford to be stuck in there ways, ffxi will be unable to last far into 2016 with no updates and no console players. Square also don't care about the game, right now it's nothing more than a hinderance.

Evolve or die is the real deal. Everquest would not exist today if not for swapping to f2p, same for many many other great mmo worlds that many players love.

Quite how someone can spend 5-10 years on a game and happily let it die when the possible cure is right infront of them is beyond me.

The wakeup call for everyone will be on march of 2016, after months of no updates and the final closure of all console players reality will kick in like a mule.

[Isal]

Mobile doesn't = phone like it used to. In this day and age, tablets are included as well, given they are mobile devices. I've played some free MMORPGs (Full 3D/free camera angle and all) on my tablet, and while the platform definitely seemed capable, the game obviously lacked a story as enjoyable as FFXI's. Given I can get FFXI to run just fine on an old netbook that's weaker than my tablet, I see no reason why I wouldn't enjoy FFXI mobile based solely on the concept of "because it's mobile".

I haven't made a stance against the current FFXI going F2P, but I haven't decided to condemn FFXI Mobile without having seen it either.

[Zeargi]

The vast majority of f2p games are not p2w, they simply sell outfits.

It boils down to how much you trust Square Enix, it seems you don't trust them at all?

Trust of SE has nothing to do with, my problems of trust falls on to the players. People's over-eagerness to fork over money on things like a 'costume,' might seem small, but you can't fault a company for peoples lax of restraint. You drop $1.99 here, or 2.50 there... suddenly the expansion of what becomes 'sell-able' comes into question. "Why can't I buy X?" "Please let me me purchase Y." DCU, Diablo 3, Elderscrolls Online, Star Wars... Most of these are games with nothing more than surface fluff. While not all Subscriptions mean 100% Goodness, as FFXIV can attest to that. But when extra money comes into play, things don't stay sacred for long...

[Castanica]

Mobile doesn't = phone like it used to. In this day and age, tablets are included as well, given they are mobile devices. I've played some free MMORPGs (Full 3D/free camera angle and all) on my tablet, and while the platform definitely seemed capable, the game obviously lacked a story as enjoyable as FFXI's. Given I can get FFXI to run just fine on an old netbook that's weaker than my tablet, I see no reason why I wouldn't enjoy FFXI mobile based solely on the concept of "because it's mobile".

I haven't made a stance against the current FFXI going F2P, but I haven't decided to condemn FFXI Mobile without having seen it either.

Show me a mobile or tablet game (they are the same because devs dont' split them) that is even 1/2 of the complexity of a real mmorpg.