Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

[Chiibi]

[Vadreucant]

I totally agree with you there. Why make this game so easy if you are so lazy that you dont want to work on anyhting at all then you need to find a different game ot play.

[Kuishen]

I totally agree with you there. Why make this game so easy if you are so lazy that you dont want to work on anyhting at all then you need to find a different game ot play.

You're implying the only thing to do in the game worthwhile is leveling. Again, baseless argument.

[Chiibi]

it doesnt matter how you get to 90 to be honest, as long as you put the effort to catch up to everyone then it doesnt matter >.>

[Vadreucant]

I honestly think that it's one or two people coming in here and repeating the exact same horseshit.

1. Leeching does not make you a bad player. For the umpteenth time. Being a bad player and not doing research on how to play your job makes you a bad player.

2. "being level 90 doesnt mean what it should" What should it mean? Because it looks to me as if you're butthurt because you thought that being level 75, 90 etc. meant something, when it never did. All it means is that you are at cap, hurray, that doesn't make you better than anybody else.

ok I didnt say it made you better or worse than anyone being level 90 all I meant was it showed you were willing to take the time to actually do something with your character and leeching does not make you a bad player either but dont bitch when you cant hit anything. underskilled jobs are just as bad as underleveled jobs.

[Yarly]

Leveling is not part of this game anymore. It hasn't been since abyssea came out. Thus make it a lot easier so everyone can enjoy the game at the level cap.

[Lynchilles]

my e-morality? wow people sure like to make things up, your in supprt of lv1 entry to abyssea? so your are in support of the game becoming so easy that it becomes boring and worthless to the point of being shut down?

Anyone who supports the 1lv abyssea cap, fails to realize how much it would hurt the game as a whole, I never told anyone they should be playing a specific way, I am telling people how much abyssea has hurt the game, and that lowering it's access to 1lv could in turn "end" the game.

Seriously, do you have any grasp on logical reasoning whatsoever?

The game already is easy. The game has been easy for years.

If there is anything "hard" about this game, it is the amount of time it takes to acomplish something.

This is what I get for arguing with someone with such a heavy dependence on inductive reasoning.

I will try to convey what I mean in the simplest terms possible:

What you think is "fun" and "enjoyable" in a video game is NOT what everyone else might think is "fun" and "enjoyable" in a video game

[Viiviian]

meh i say leave cap, at least work for it a little and the damage is alrdy done ppl alrdy leeched and have jobs to 90 and have no clue how to play the job. why bother enless you feel board that you have to leech to feel like your the greatest Leech i mean player there is in the game. if you know you are usefull at lvl 70+ then go in at 70 if you wana leech then leech and SE might as well take it to lvl 1. just my 2cents ^.~

[Kuishen]

ok I didnt say it made you better or worse than anyone being level 90 all I meant was it showed you were willing to take the time to actually do something with your character and leeching does not make you a bad player either but dont bitch when you cant hit anything. underskilled jobs are just as bad as underleveled jobs.

Cause skilling up is hard. Do you even read your posts before you make them? Because honestly you have absolutely no argument here. I'm still convinced you're just butthurt because you thought level 75 or 90 was an accomplishment.

[Saefinn]

It doesn't exactly take that long to level from 1 to level 30, especially with the exp increase. Can people really complain that it takes too long to level from 1 to 30? It's difficult to find a level 30+ party, a lot of my invites are for Qufim and Abyssea. If I want to party elsewhere, it's harder to find a party. But I'm happy that if I need exp, I can get a party without leeching without too much trouble, even if means I have to start one myself. Level 1+ Abyssea leeches would change that. Personally I hate leeching, a friend encouraged me to check out Abyssea in his party even though my job was capped at 60 (so I was just receiving cruor) and I was bored. I felt more comfortable taking Scholar from level 50 to 70 because a friend was in desperate need of another healer and found that whilst I wasn't the best possible healer, I was at least useful, even though I would have prefered a non-Aby party. Sure it took me a 9 hour session to go from 40 to 50 and would take a lot longer to go from 50 to 70, when it only took 3 hours in Abyssea. Getting to level 50 to 70 in any other Final Fantasy game wouldn't take 3 hours, it also takes longer, not as long as a FFXI outside of Aby. I just don't want parties to be hurt by Abyssea. So I don't like the idea of having Abyssea to have no level restrictions. I don't mind people leeching in Aby as level 30+, as I said, it doesn't take long to get to level 30, it doesn't spoil grinding for everybody else and those in Aby, at least play their job before hitting Aby.