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    Player Roja323's Avatar
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    Problem is, if your using 3x earth, your missing out on acc/atk/haste, and theres no point in sending a pet in to take little dmg and deal little dmg. Id prefer fire/wind/thunder for haste/atk/acc.

    I guess if you wanted to pet solo something turtle style maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roja323 View Post
    Problem is, if your using 3x earth, your missing out on acc/atk/haste, and theres no point in sending a pet in to take little dmg and deal little dmg. Id prefer fire/wind/thunder for haste/atk/acc.

    I guess if you wanted to pet solo something turtle style maybe.
    Sacrifices.
    Sometimes running in guns blazing is not the best option, even though thats what the community typically chooses to do.
    I can't speak for Adoulin content as I don't do it yet, but often times, if I'm facing a tougher fight then normal, I have my automation tank and I cover her, it's safer then both of us going in at full power and taking so much dmg left and right that we can't survive due to the damage being given out is not greater then being received relative to the monsters HP.

    If you're in a group with a dedicated tank, or other party setup where your pet tanking isn't need, or fighting weaker monsters where taking less dmg is not important as dealing the most, then yes, 3 earth would be a bit pointless then. But that's the beauty of pup, it's adaptable to situations.
    (If only we had a quick way to equip attachment setups >< so we could dismiss/deploy faster with a new set.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roja323 View Post
    Problem is, if your using 3x earth, your missing out on acc/atk/haste, and theres no point in sending a pet in to take little dmg and deal little dmg. Id prefer fire/wind/thunder for haste/atk/acc.

    I guess if you wanted to pet solo something turtle style maybe.
    Was just an example of how crazy it could get. Obviously you wouldn't be using 3 since you can gear in enough to make up for the difference at 2. As far as dmg though you could go the cannibal blade spam route which cares much less about acc/att. Though you'd need a dark maneuver since it looks like they forgot about the whole setting auto ws thing they were talking about.

    As far as what point is there... well idk plds don't do much dmg but they have a point. Just gotta give it hate somehow and it could be a reasonable tank. decoy works on autos right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Was just an example of how crazy it could get. Obviously you wouldn't be using 3 since you can gear in enough to make up for the difference at 2. As far as dmg though you could go the cannibal blade spam route which cares much less about acc/att. Though you'd need a dark maneuver since it looks like they forgot about the whole setting auto ws thing they were talking about.

    As far as what point is there... well idk plds don't do much dmg but they have a point. Just gotta give it hate somehow and it could be a reasonable tank. decoy works on autos right?
    so does VS>>Ventriloquy, have a thf SA/TA>>Rudra's Storm you 1st and you might even be able to have your auto hold hate for .867 seconds in a party, or however long it takes the Sam to swing again. Even very good tanks have issues holding hate and I've never seen the word "good" used in association with Valoredge tanking, in fact those kind of ideas are how we got "lol" attached to our abbreviated job name.

    Frankly I see a lot more utility for sharpshot or mage autos even with the additional damage reduction on VE, especially for party play with the new attachments as damage or back-up healing/buffing bring more than any alleged tanking by VE, or even using spiritreaver to increase damage variety, he should nuke fairly decent now. If we can get people to add our pet's DPS to our DPS as they should to calculate DPS from the party slot we might even get some party love-I'm not going to hold my breath but it COULD theoretically happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    so does VS>>Ventriloquy, have a thf SA/TA>>Rudra's Storm you 1st and you might even be able to have your auto hold hate for .867 seconds in a party, or however long it takes the Sam to swing again. Even very good tanks have issues holding hate and I've never seen the word "good" used in association with Valoredge tanking, in fact those kind of ideas are how we got "lol" attached to our abbreviated job name.

    Frankly I see a lot more utility for sharpshot or mage autos even with the additional damage reduction on VE, especially for party play with the new attachments as damage or back-up healing/buffing bring more than any alleged tanking by VE, or even using spiritreaver to increase damage variety, he should nuke fairly decent now. If we can get people to add our pet's DPS to our DPS as they should to calculate DPS from the party slot we might even get some party love-I'm not going to hold my breath but it COULD theoretically happen.
    OH I didn't mean in a normal melee pt... obviously any kind of tank for anything is useless then lol. Gotta use the right tools for the job. Obviously when I mentioned decoy I was talking about rng pts. Though could be decent in a mostly pet pt. Niche use for sure but then so are tanks in general these days. Still rather nice for those situations is all I'm saying not omg everyone do this all the time
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