Can we please lessen the unGodly Restrictions for Mythic weapons!?

[Malthar]

doesn't need a re-evaluation. it's fine just the way it is.

or rather scratch that... with our higher levels and therefore higher capability they should make things more difficult. it is way too easy now.

I agree with Protey. The game is way too damn easy. Might as well go play WoW.

[Zeargi]

I agree with Protey. The game is way too damn easy. Might as well go play WoW.

I mean, yes... something have gotten a lot easier... And there are very few and far between things that are challenging. A relic of some sort is something that is well within reach of anyone with time to do dynamis and the knowledge of how the system works. But the problem I'm facing is as Protey said: The assaults were made for 3-6 people but allow for 1 person to go in. When this was introduced there were still lots of people around on every server, regardless of the time zone you lived in, but nowadays I'm lucky if 20-50 of the 450-500 people online are actually doing something instead of just muling away items. And it's only the assaults that are really holding me back. I think, though now might be passed the ones that require 2+ people to complete, but I've still have 24 or 25 more to go, and these will be the first time I do them, so I've got no clue what I'm getting into when I do them.

[Malthar]

Don't you have friends, or a linkshell you can do this with?

[Malithar]

I mean, yes... something have gotten a lot easier... And there are very few and far between things that are challenging. A relic of some sort is something that is well within reach of anyone with time to do dynamis and the knowledge of how the system works.

Funny, if you replace "relic" with "mythic" and "dynamis" with "Salvage," that sentence still means the exact same thing. Learn the system, make like minded friends, make progress. No one really cares about the "trouble" of finding a friend or 3 for a few assaults.

And it's only the assaults that are really holding me back. I think, though now might be passed the ones that require 2+ people to complete, but I've still have 24 or 25 more to go, and these will be the first time I do them, so I've got no clue what I'm getting into when I do them.

So you haven't even flagged the Mythic quest? Gotta love the Oforums.

[Zeargi]

Don't you have friends, or a linkshell you can do this with?

I have a friend that was playing, but he had to take a break from the game for personal reasons, I've join a LS recently, but most of them are more interested in the NNI event.

Funny, if you replace "relic" with "mythic" and "dynamis" with "Salvage," that sentence still means the exact same thing. Learn the system, make like minded friends, make progress. No one really cares about the "trouble" of finding a friend or 3 for a few assaults.



So you haven't even flagged the Mythic quest? Gotta love the Oforums.

As I said in my original post, I'm working towards Captain, which means I have to do this all over again. But all the other things can be done out of sequence. I don't have to be done with assault to Kill the Kings, Odin, and Salvage bosses. Those were easy. Farming the ZNMs were bit more challenging but I'm 1/2 through the 2nd path. I've been doing Einherjar and gathering the ichor. I've also been doing Salvage and farming the Alexandrite. But the vast difference between a Relic and Mythic is that a Relic only requires to do a few things in Dynamis: the relic base, the shard, the coin, the paper. The rest can be done on the labor of others. With the farming to subsidize the cost and the willingness to pay the large price tag, you can buy the synthesis materials and the currency. Where a mythic you are required to do the assault and wait for the tags. Outside of the alexandrite, nothing can be purchased to really expedite that process.

[Malithar]

And your point? Relics are easy, so Mythics should be just as easy? A large majority of Relics serve no purpose beyond a personal goal at this point, while a large majority of Mythics still serve as the strongest weapon for their respective job. It takes time, be glad it takes less time than it did back in the day. Be glad there's thousands of hacked Alexandrite in circulation before gathering 30,000 of them is your next complaint. Just work at it. QQing here will accomplish far less than working at it, posting on FFXIAH server forums looking for other's building them, shouting in game, etc.

[Zeargi]

And your point? Relics are easy, so Mythics should be just as easy? A large majority of Relics serve no purpose beyond a personal goal at this point, while a large majority of Mythics still serve as the strongest weapon for their respective job. It takes time, be glad it takes less time than it did back in the day. Be glad there's thousands of hacked Alexandrite in circulation before gathering 30,000 of them is your next complaint. Just work at it. QQing here will accomplish far less than working at it, posting on FFXIAH server forums looking for other's building them, shouting in game, etc.

Again... You're way off the mark. My complaint is with the assaults. I've been working on it today. So, please stop implying that I'm being lazy. I've already got 1000 pieces of Alexandrite that I've farmed. I know that it takes times. I'm on a stage 3 of a relic, working for the pieces I need. I not above doing work. But again, I can't say how many times as it is, I've shouted for people, but most people don't want to do them. Overall, most of them aren't fun, they aren't rewarding outside more Assault points, but why do a 'hard' one when you can do something like the Golden Salvage and just get Assault points for that clear. Plus as I've mentioned, the NNI Event is also a big thing that stops people from helping. You get one back every 24 hours and it caps at 3 if you're under captain and 4 otherwise. Even the The Campaign Tags cap at at least 7. What I'm asking for is a more of a margin error recovery. Sometimes, You get unlucky.

[Odjima]

Having made a mythic myself, and reading over this thread. I can't help but wonder, when you go to do Assaults, do you take the time to read up on how to clear them before you attempt it?

With limited attempts (1 tag per 24 hours, with a max of 4/5 tags a cycle) you should be aiming to reduce the difficulty of each Assault mission at hand. There's truly only a few that are 'unsoloable', with Lebros Supplies being the only one that is truly impossible alone.

Armed with such knowledge in advance, it shouldn't be hard to know on which Assaults you need to shout for help, and which you can simply go in and clear by yourself. This would largely expedite the process, as well as have you shouting for the ones that often other mythic makers would be stuck on as well, furthering the odds of you receiving assistance for known difficult Assault clears.

Certainly would do a lot more for your time than complaining on the forums I'd think.

[Zeargi]

Having made a mythic myself, and reading over this thread. I can't help but wonder, when you go to do Assaults, do you take the time to read up on how to clear them before you attempt it?

With limited attempts (1 tag per 24 hours, with a max of 4/5 tags a cycle) you should be aiming to reduce the difficulty of each Assault mission at hand. There's truly only a few that are 'unsoloable', with Lebros Supplies being the only one that is truly impossible alone.

Armed with such knowledge in advance, it shouldn't be hard to know on which Assaults you need to shout for help, and which you can simply go in and clear by yourself. This would largely expedite the process, as well as have you shouting for the ones that often other mythic makers would be stuck on as well, furthering the odds of you receiving assistance for known difficult Assault clears.

Certainly would do a lot more for your time than complaining on the forums I'd think.

I do read up on them. The two major ones I failed on were the the Evade and Escape because of the Lamps, and Lebros Supplies because of the NPC speed and time. I failed a few others on my first go, like the Searat Salvation, but that's because I tried escorting all 5 at once and the stupid fish scattered them everywhere. So in instances like this, I try to aim for the bare minimum for the clear. Most time I failed were are on the one that have 15 mins to clear, with the exception of the first 2 i mention. Lebros Supplies had 12 NPC to feed in 30 mins, which should be doable, but each of the NPCs has a slow recognition of input and can't do multiple interacted like other NPCs. So, for instance, when I got help for that one, if one or the other talked to the Food Supplying NPC the other person would be locked out from getting food for a couple of seconds. Where if 2 players were to talk to a store or some other NPC, both could get the interact. But this doesn't just apply to the Food Supplies, it applies to ALL the NPC in the zones. So no two people can rapidly feed a single target, and 5-8 extra seconds to wait adds up real quick when it's just 1 or 2 people, especially when it's all luck as to what food you get.

[Protey]

you should be bringing at least 5 people to lebros supplies. for someone as inexperienced as you, i suggest the full 6. COMMUNICATION is the key to that assault. I suggest splitting up into S, SW, E, N, and NW. That leaves one extra person. He should help out with E or NW. Since if an NPC is full and you talk to it you lose your food anyway, communicate, communicate, communicate. Do so by what type of shield the NPC has that is being fed. Everyone should have movement speed gear + on, and I suggest one person be a BRD for nightingale/troubadour mazurka, and another be a COR for bolter's roll. The crawler's will take off the speed buffs eventually, but you can at least have them at the start. Don't bother wasting everyone's time by trying to coordinate for everyone to gather to put it back on. Just use your movement speed gear and people going as /thf helps too. Can also use powder boots on some jobs. With 6 people all of that isn't necessary, but it helps if someone is retarded and feeds the wrong NPC.