New expansion?!?

[RalphTheGalka]

I'm not sure if I want to see another expansion just yet if's just going to be new ways of upgrading old gear. Plopping down more tedious trials on top of old ones is getting stale and needs to be rethought if there's going to be a new expansion.

[Roja323]

I'm not sure if I want to see another expansion just yet if's just going to be new ways of upgrading old gear. Plopping down more tedious trials on top of old ones is getting stale and needs to be rethought if there's going to be a new expansion.

THe problem is the general populous isnt able to 'let it go'. Thats why there is reforged AF/RELIC armor, R/E/M weapons. This is the only mmo i have ever played that keeps the same gear you got 12 years ago relevant for the sake of 'but i spent so much time back then getting it why shouldnt it be relevant today'.

Seriously, every other mmo works on the system that each expansion works like this:
Current level / i level (99 / 119)
Group gear is i 109/ raid gear is 119

Expansion rolls around, new level/ilevel (105/i125)
New group gear = 117, new raid gear = 125 (*note that new group gear is comparable to old raid gear, but not as good, but better than old group gear).

They tried to not upgrade old gear into ilevel gear, and people flipped a shizlle when their R/M/E wasnt the best weapon anymore. Now if there was an ergon for every job and that was the new i level version of an end game weapon, i think it would be more in line with every other mmo.


The ffxi model is:
increase ilevel, add new trials to old equipment! Keep using that 5 year old bp with new trials!

[Elemmire]

THe problem is the general populous isnt able to 'let it go'. Thats why there is reforged AF/RELIC armor, R/E/M weapons. This is the only mmo i have ever played that keeps the same gear you got 12 years ago relevant for the sake of 'but i spent so much time back then getting it why shouldnt it be relevant today'.

Seriously, every other mmo works on the system that each expansion works like this:
Current level / i level (99 / 119)
Group gear is i 109/ raid gear is 119

Expansion rolls around, new level/ilevel (105/i125)
New group gear = 117, new raid gear = 125 (*note that new group gear is comparable to old raid gear, but not as good, but better than old group gear).

They tried to not upgrade old gear into ilevel gear, and people flipped a shizlle when their R/M/E wasnt the best weapon anymore. Now if there was an ergon for every job and that was the new i level version of an end game weapon, i think it would be more in line with every other mmo.


The ffxi model is:
increase ilevel, add new trials to old equipment! Keep using that 5 year old bp with new trials!

I personally like the FFXI model more. I like that it adds new gear and allows for upgrading old gear. That's how it should be imo. Some people do have ties to old gear the worked hard to get and want to keep. The model other MMOs use is far more annoying to me.

Personally, I hate that every MMO is even using gear score and item level and such bs. All it does is add to the increased elitism bs. I remember when FFXI (and other MMOs) could find people just trying random groups instead of the core set of ideal and having it work. MMOs need to not encourage the elitism.

[Bluestar2kx]

THe problem is the general populous isnt able to 'let it go'. Thats why there is reforged AF/RELIC armor, R/E/M weapons. This is the only mmo i have ever played that keeps the same gear you got 12 years ago relevant for the sake of 'but i spent so much time back then getting it why shouldnt it be relevant today'.

Seriously, every other mmo works on the system that each expansion works like this:
Current level / i level (99 / 119)
Group gear is i 109/ raid gear is 119

Expansion rolls around, new level/ilevel (105/i125)
New group gear = 117, new raid gear = 125 (*note that new group gear is comparable to old raid gear, but not as good, but better than old group gear).

They tried to not upgrade old gear into ilevel gear, and people flipped a shizlle when their R/M/E wasnt the best weapon anymore. Now if there was an ergon for every job and that was the new i level version of an end game weapon, i think it would be more in line with every other mmo.


The ffxi model is:
increase ilevel, add new trials to old equipment! Keep using that 5 year old bp with new trials!

So basically, every other MMO, a new gear update comes out, you toss the old stuff after getting the new stuff. So nothing is really valuable at all?
Maybe thats why FFXI has survived, and on a sub model at that, when few others can but the almighty (crappy and stale?) wow.

FFXI makes you feel like getting that gear, however old the original was, was actually worth something, that it was an accomplishment, which is why so many got into FFXI I'd wager, because getting somewhere made you feel like you really actually DID get somewhere.

I still treasure my kikoku long after I got it, even though I moved to a different character, because that was a major accomplishment for me. Sure some have multiple relic weapons, but for me, just having that one, is worth more then all of them. I imagine other people feel the same way about a lot of things they have.

So naturally, players will have a cow when that work is trashed for no reason (other mmo models), when that isn't how FFXI works.
And personally, I'm quite happy with FFXI's model, I really like it, and I hope they continue on the same path.