Please SE lower the sparks requirements for Rem Chapters 1-5

[Spectreman]

There's two great ways to farm sparks: Monstrosity and Abyssea. The former works for pretty much anyone, the latter is better if you have a job with spammable AOE. I went into Abyssea on GEO, stacked up magic boosting atmas and trained up colibri and spiders and -ra nuked the crap out of them with the "deal 500 damage 200 times" objective- you can easily complete that in a couple pulls since every monster hit counts. You can use your geomancy to avoid more damage and boost your nukes. BLU has been AoE killing stuff like that since abyssea existed (of course BLU has been doing this a lot longer)

Yea, thats what 'im doing. Besides that i got chapters II and III done already with PUGs, all im looking for is chapter I.

[Spectreman]

FYI you can currently get Chapters 1-5 for 2000 login points each during the current login campaign.

You're better off spending them on SKC though, 2000 LP will net you 66 of them, which should net you 3 or more Chapters through the BCNMs.

You 2 pointed good options. Maybe SE will take a look at this in the future and lower the spark costs for 1-5, 6-10 in the future since its almost a forgotten event by now.

[Olor]

I have to agree with with Afania. These people are lucky they are even allowed to get chapters solo at all. Besides, the battle fields are not that hard to get access too. You can probably get to sky in a week or 2 depending on how casual you are. Same with Sea. It is sad to see that no one wants to do content anymore. No one wants to do the story lines when Final Fantasy is known for their story telling. Olor has been complaining for months about not having access to these battle fields and other content through story lines, where if she stepped out of the forum to stop complaining with in that time, she would have access by now. I was able to get chapters 6-10 with the AAs alone and I still see shouts for those. According to you, I probably cheated to get them.

which brings me to your cheating comment on getting a mythic. The only way you can get a mythic easy is if you win the bonanza events. Other then that, there is no easy way or "cheating" way about it. People that have mythics worked their ass off to get them. As far me, I have no mythics but I do have a couple jobs in 119 gear and I am not even a hardcore player anymore. The difference is that I am not afraid to get my hands a little dirty to get it.

Apparently you missed the part where people were soloing thousands of alex a day by using hacks ... then got 3 day bans. That's not cheating? Ok. If you say so.

lol, "lucky" that we're allowed to get chapters solo. Hate to break it to you but this game needs people to pay it's sub fees. My money is worth just as much as yours, and frankly if this game loses all the players like me it won't be around very much longer.

I do not see the reason why people get up in arms about others enjoying the game in their own way. How does it hurt you if I don't want to do mission battles but prefer to work on current gear instead? I've said it a million times. I have zero interest in logging on and doing nothing but watching cut scenes for hours on end, then two-shotting a boring battle. Geeze.

At any rate, I have access to some of the battles but I don't want to do them. I don't want to be stuck on BRD or ignored completely. I want to play my BST. Besides no one shouts for almost any of those battles, and no, I don't feel like spending my free time shouting for people to make a party. I want to log in, derp around a bit, get some sparks and make progress on my gear.

I can do that now, but the pace is glacial and I don't think it's well balanced.

Why does it bother you that I want to be able to log in for an hour and make some solo progress without having to beg for help or beg others to let me join their groups even though I am not PERFECTLY geared or playing the "right" job?

If I just want to derp around on BST and get some chapters, what's your problem? If I think it's not very balanced in terms of how long it takes to get chapters solo, why do you argue against it? You can get way more chapters than me doing your elite group content on SAM or RNG.

You don't want my BST in groups. You don't want my BST to be on equal footing ("It's a solo job herp derp!") - yet you don't want my BST to be able to do anything meaningful solo in a reasonable amount of time? Ok. w/e

[Afania]

lol, "lucky" that we're allowed to get chapters solo. Hate to break it to you but this game needs people to pay it's sub fees. My money is worth just as much as yours, and frankly if this game loses all the players like me it won't be around very much longer.

I do not see the reason why people get up in arms about others enjoying the game in their own way. How does it hurt you if I don't want to do mission battles but prefer to work on current gear instead? I've said it a million times. I have zero interest in logging on and doing nothing but watching cut scenes for hours on end, then two-shotting a boring battle. Geeze.

Just because you pay for a sub fee(and doesn't bother to log on and play the game), doesn't make your opinion weight more than others, to a point that you can call others "cheaters" or ask them to quit if they dare to express different opinions.

Also stop acting as if 90% of players are the same as you, or have some opinion as you, so the game should built/designed just for you.

I didn't say anything about you shouldn't enjoy the content, you want solo content, there's solo content for you. But you're not asking for solo content, you're asking for items to handed to you so you can continue to pay for a sub and get items without playing the game, then act as if you're legit to represent "majority" of the player in this game so you can bash anyone with different opinions. So if SE doesn't listen to mighty Olor's opinion the game will die because Olor is the majority.

Get_real. Let's face it, majority of the players in this game actually spend time to.....play the game, instead of refuse to play the game and want items handed to them, then bash anyone with different opinion by telling them to quit or assume they're cheaters.

FFXI isn't going to die if players like you all quit, since players like you who doesn't log on/pt with others doesn't contribute a thing to server population nor make pt easier to make. If current server has 600 players on NA time, it's still gonna be 600 after you quit because you're already not playing the game anyways.

What keeps a MMO going is more than just players paying $$, but also players playing with each others. There's no point running a MMO with empty servers but 1M sub paying a monthly fee but not playing the game.

[Kensagaku]

While I don't agree with the aggressive tone on either side, I do agree that chapters aren't really all that bad to get. I think for me it comes down to a simple point:

Olor - Solo, the rate is fine. You may not make huge amounts of progress, but you are still making progress. Is it slow? Yes. But this is the price of playing solo in an MMO; you have a slower rate because you're doing it alone. If you want to complain about the rate of solo, join a group. I know you don't want to be "stuck on bard" but there's a [Change Jobs] button for a reason, and it's not just one way; use your Bard to get the pages you want so that you can level the job you enjoy, and then play that job. If you have to deal with Bard to unlock gear for your Beastmaster, is that really such a bad thing?

Additionally, if you're so set on doing it on BST, I still fail to see why you can't solo VE battlefields. Slow pace? Sure, but faster than sparks! All you need is a 119 axe and a fair amount of pet food, and most of the BCs are easy. Hell, my Beastmaster is far from "elite" and I've still soloed several of them. Get Hurkan's axe for a 115 (it's a decent offhand until later, if you're not offhanding a PDT Astolfo for pet durability), or beat the Bee delve (hint: you might have to go on BRD to get the clear/plasm, and then you unlock a shiny for your BST! Change jobs button strikes again). Even if you really, really don't want to solo VEs? You can also AE burn up sparks. Do the 500+ damage one, grab a dagger and go /dnc, head to abyssea to toss on some MAB and Regen atmas, and go nuts. Each AE should break 500 damage, and within a few pulls, objective complete for 1k sparks and 5k exp. Toss on the region's objective as well, net some bonus for every 30 you kill. Lookie there, easy solo method for your sparks farming. Or head out to Adoulin areas, toss on the area objective for a specific mob, their crystal (as long as you have Ionis), 500+ damage, and farm mobs for CP/EXP, there's more easy sparks.

I personally think the current setup is fine. I've bought tons of chapters from sparks because I missed out on a lot of the rush. I almost always have 500+ damage set, so between doing Dynamis on THF or BLU, Salvage on BLU or DRG, or just running around soloing CP in Marjami or Outer Ra'kaznar, I'm racking up points rather rapidly. So 109s really shouldn't be too bad to get. Even on BST, your pet should be able to do 500+ damage in Abyssea, or you could AE cleave small groups, or you can farm CP in areas like Marjami Ravine, Foret, or Morimar. Sparks are -not- hard to get, and the pace is far from glacial, if you know how to do it.

[Zarchery]

I constantly have more sparks than I know what to do with. I've recently taken to buying skillup tomes for weapons for jobs I don't even have leveled. And the process for doing that is a major pain in the ass (buying 20 stacks one stack at a time, then doing the "use item" command 240 times), so much that I start to dread capping sparks. I don't see how some people have so much trouble with this. You can do the Limited Time Challenges up to 4 times a day for 1900 sparks a piece (900 for first completion plus a copper voucher that can be further redeemed for an extra 1,000 sparks). The Daily objective "Vanquish Multiple Enemies (D)" will also net you 1 copper voucher. If you have any mules you can do these objectives on them. While you can't mail the vouchers, you can mail the Rem's chapters.

I dunno. I just think that if you lower the cost to 5,000, that'll still be too high for some people and they'll demand it come down to 2,500 or 1,000.

[Kensagaku]

If you're worried about having too many sparks, convert them to gil. >.> The 71-98 items are roughly a 1:10 sparks->gil conversion if you NPC in capped-fame areas. I think the h2h are 1033 sparks for something like 10.3k gil or something, so you can convert capped sparks to roughly 500kish gil.

[Afania]

My money is worth just as much as yours, and frankly if this game loses all the players like me it won't be around very much longer.

Also to add one extra input....if player A pay for sub and play the game + do group content v.s another player B who pay for sub but refuse to play the game nor pt with others, player A's opinion would worth a lot more weight than player B.

Money wise, both players pay same amount of money, but player A contributes to server population, economy, and put the community together by participating community events.

MMORPG built on community, a MMORPG with tons of active subscription but ghost town everywhere is a dead MMO, even if the company is making money.

Eventually all players would quit cuz nobody would want to pay sub fee to play a ghost town MMO.

If I'm a game dev, I'd WANT player B to play the game more, but I wouldn't make decisions to please player B by making player A quit. Since player A is the core foundation of the game, while player B may not play the game regardless of what you do. If all player A quits, then the game community collapses, if player B quits the game can still function perfectly fine.

Just because all players pay money, doesn't mean their opinion has the same weight. Or else SE would design the game for RMT cuz they pay more money than most other players.

I'm not saying Olor's opinion isn't important, I just think "I pay for sub fee but I don't play the game, thus the game would die if I quit" doesn't make sense at all.

[mattkoko]

Apparently you missed the part where people were soloing thousands of alex a day by using hacks ... then got 3 day bans. That's not cheating? Ok. If you say so.

lol, "lucky" that we're allowed to get chapters solo. Hate to break it to you but this game needs people to pay it's sub fees. My money is worth just as much as yours, and frankly if this game loses all the players like me it won't be around very much longer.


I do not see the reason why people get up in arms about others enjoying the game in their own way. How does it hurt you if I don't want to do mission battles but prefer to work on current gear instead? I've said it a million times. I have zero interest in logging on and doing nothing but watching cut scenes for hours on end, then two-shotting a boring battle. Geeze.

At any rate, I have access to some of the battles but I don't want to do them. I don't want to be stuck on BRD or ignored completely. I want to play my BST. Besides no one shouts for almost any of those battles, and no, I don't feel like spending my free time shouting for people to make a party. I want to log in, derp around a bit, get some sparks and make progress on my gear.

I can do that now, but the pace is glacial and I don't think it's well balanced.

Why does it bother you that I want to be able to log in for an hour and make some solo progress without having to beg for help or beg others to let me join their groups even though I am not PERFECTLY geared or playing the "right" job?

If I just want to derp around on BST and get some chapters, what's your problem? If I think it's not very balanced in terms of how long it takes to get chapters solo, why do you argue against it? You can get way more chapters than me doing your elite group content on SAM or RNG.

You don't want my BST in groups. You don't want my BST to be on equal footing ("It's a solo job herp derp!") - yet you don't want my BST to be able to do anything meaningful solo in a reasonable amount of time? Ok. w/e

Okay so there may be some people that have cheated to get mythic. I honestly did not hear about that and I do admit where I am wrong. However, what about those that did not cheat. See, the way you say it, you make it sound like everyone who has a mythic has cheated to get it which is not true. You also make it sound like your opinion is way above anyone elses. Or at least the ones that disagree with you. So basically anyone that disagrees with you is either elite or a cheater. I have said this before, I love to debate and I love sharing opinions. But you create a hostile situation by saying stuff like, "oh and before anyone comes in here with full 119 everything and cheated mythic weapons etc etc etc." I would not be so snarky with you if you did not whine about everything and if you were actually some what respectful. If you just ended it at your suggestion for the requirement of sparks we would not have this problem.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand.

It sounds to me like you want everything with out sacrificing anything at all. I know what you are going to say. "I play a game for fun, I shouldn't have to sacrifice anything." Here's the thing. SE can't adapt a game specifically to you or any single person for that matter. No matter what SE does, even if it makes you happy, it will effect someone else in the opposite way and vise-versa. I get it, you want to play your bst. That is fine, nothing is stopping you. Personally, I enjoy playing drk the most. I also understand that I can't get everything I would like for that job just by playing drk alone. Therefore, I am willing to make some sacrifices to get what I want. As far as me being in elite content, doing AAs is hardly elite. Many of the events you get chapters from are hardly elite. You basically made it sound like any content that is group content is elite. You may not have meant it like that, but that is exactly what you are saying.

And to your point about it not effecting anyone else by making chapters easier to farm with sparks, let me ask you this. Where are we going to get people for group content (elite content according to you) if everything is so easy to get solo? Lets use chapters as an example since that is the topic at hand right now. If they make chapters so easy to get from sparks, do you really think there will be enough people to do the battle fields for chapters or any of the other equipment from those battle fields? It may be able to be done but it would certainly be harder considering most of the battle fields, you get at least 2-3 people only after chapters. And if one of those people is a pld, you will have to wait even longer since that person that has pld is farming his chapters by doing sparks since it was made so much easier. The reason why group content survives still is because it is more efficient then soloing. If soloing is made more efficient, there will be no need for delve, incrusion, higher tiered battle fields, skirmishes, etc.

When it all comes down to it, there needs to be some sort of motivation for people to do group things in an MMORPG. Maybe you don't know what that acronym stands for. It means, MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER online role-playing game.

[Afania]

Okay so there may be some people that have cheated to get mythic. I honestly did not hear about that and I do admit where I am wrong. However, what about those that did not cheat. See, the way you say it, you make it sound like everyone who has a mythic has cheated to get it which is not true. You also make it sound like your opinion is way above anyone elses. Or at least the ones that disagree with you. So basically anyone that disagrees with you is either elite or a cheater. I have said this before, I love to debate and I love sharing opinions. But you create a hostile situation by saying stuff like, "oh and before anyone comes in here with full 119 everything and cheated mythic weapons etc etc etc." I would not be so snarky with you if you did not whine about everything and if you were actually some what respectful. If you just ended it at your suggestion for the requirement of sparks we would not have this problem.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand.

It sounds to me like you want everything with out sacrificing anything at all. I know what you are going to say. "I play a game for fun, I shouldn't have to sacrifice anything." Here's the thing. SE can't adapt a game specifically to you or any single person for that matter. No matter what SE does, even if it makes you happy, it will effect someone else in the opposite way and vise-versa. I get it, you want to play your bst. That is fine, nothing is stopping you. Personally, I enjoy playing drk the most. I also understand that I can't get everything I would like for that job just by playing drk alone. Therefore, I am willing to make some sacrifices to get what I want. As far as me being in elite content, doing AAs is hardly elite. Many of the events you get chapters from are hardly elite. You basically made it sound like any content that is group content is elite. You may not have meant it like that, but that is exactly what you are saying.

And to your point about it not effecting anyone else by making chapters easier to farm with sparks, let me ask you this. Where are we going to get people for group content (elite content according to you) if everything is so easy to get solo? Lets use chapters as an example since that is the topic at hand right now. If they make chapters so easy to get from sparks, do you really think there will be enough people to do the battle fields for chapters or any of the other equipment from those battle fields? It may be able to be done but it would certainly be harder considering most of the battle fields, you get at least 2-3 people only after chapters. And if one of those people is a pld, you will have to wait even longer since that person that has pld is farming his chapters by doing sparks since it was made so much easier.

When it all comes down to it, there needs to be some sort of motivation for people to do group things in an MMORPG. Maybe you don't know what that acronym stands for. It means, MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER online role-playing game.

You must be new to this forum It's not the first time Olor act as if his/her opinion is above everyone else's then proceed to bash anyone dare to disagree....or threaten with "if I quit the game would die, because 95% of the player base has the same opinion as me". Once he/she said he/she wants anyone with better gear than him/her to quit the game so dev can design the game just for Olor.