Dragon Jug Pets

[WoW]

Greetings,

As another player has already pointed out, adding a dragon-type pet for beastmaster would be somewhat unfair to dragoons since their specialty is using a wyvern, which is why we have not added a dragon-type pet.

Alright, fair enough.

No dragons it is then. puks are pretty crappy anyway.

Thanks for the reply^^

Edit: One more question if I may; are bigger non-legendary mobs such as wivre and sandworms jug compatible? Or are these larger monsters a no go as-well? The adamantoise jug was pretty large and un-charmable also (Crude Raphie).

[SNK]

Greetings,

As another player has already pointed out, adding a dragon-type pet for beastmaster would be somewhat unfair to dragoons since their specialty is using a wyvern, which is why we have not added a dragon-type pet.

Ok, How about a Roc type pet? Since that Mithra BST in the past can run around with two of them, I'd like to see us having one?

[WoW]

Ok, How about a Roc type pet? Since that Mithra BST in the past can run around with two of them, I'd like to see us having one?

Yea^^ Raphie was uncharmable and pretty huge^^ However, it did not get in my way, idk....he would stand pretty far off. Not sure if it was a AI thing; but he was never a on-screen issue. Titan is pretty large also.

The sandworms and dragons (Just referencing for demonstrative purposes, dragons are a no-go) are minimized.

The bigger pets have awesome abilities; I mean, rams appear to be better than sheep. According to monstrosity, ram charge deals 300% damage while lambchop deals 200%; granted this is in monstrosity.

As it pertains to the rumbling; I usually turn that off in monstrosity.

[Ophannus]

I think as long as it's a non sentient beast(Dragons/Demons/Undead/Arcana are all sentient) its fair game. Roc and Sandworms would be cool. I expected Behemoths too for a pet as an ultimate lv99 pet but at 99 bsts still using sheep and crabs sigh...

When the cap was 75, I fantasized about Level 99 BSTs charming Behemoths. Make it happen.

[KingShez]

How about a different color wyvern for the dragoon? Maybe?

[Balloon]

They're talking about dragons, if it was just Wyvern colours they might as well just give Dragoon charm. Or release 2 trust automato- Oh.

[Vivivivi]

Greetings,

As another player has already pointed out, adding a dragon-type pet for beastmaster would be somewhat unfair to dragoons since their specialty is using a wyvern, which is why we have not added a dragon-type pet.

How about undead or demon pets like the ones referenced in a recent quest... Or is that going to be possible with... something else

[WoW]

Being large is a weak excuse not to implement a pet, but I do not recall size being a issue because they implemented Raphie, nor have I heard SE imply that size was an issue. They could always scale him down a bit.

However, since this thread is about big jugs, here is perfect jug line up imo, Ram (Beast), Unusual Wivre (Lizard), Unusual Scolopendrid (Vermin) , Purbol (Morbol, Plantoid), Ruszor (Aquan), Sandworm (Amorph), Amphiptere (Bird). There appears to be no sentimental barriers attached to these mobs, size appears to be the only concern and every family is represented.

Imo, jugs like these would revitalize beastmaster. The job is so dead, and these cute, cuddly, and not-so damaging jug pets are not helping. As Ophannus alluded to, most bst are accustomed to rabbits, crabs, mandies, etc; larger/damaging jugs would bring some much needed excitement and utility to beastmaster. In actuality, the only true new jugs we received were the tulfaire, chapuli and the razz; the rest are repeats. Take a look at our jug pet history; http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Familiars. See how many jugs repeat with different skins? Also, take a look at their ready move list.......wow; I wonder how bst survived this long with pets like this; I mean, crafty had absolutely no damaging abilities. Yikes. Hopefully the next batch brings some excitement to bst; akin to the hippo announcement.

[Karbuncle]

Being large is a weak excuse not to implement a pet, but I do not recall size being a issue because they implemented Raphie, nor have I heard SE imply that size was an issue. They could always scale him down a bit.

Not to nitpick, but Ralphie is a already scaled down version of Adamantoise... actually labeled "Pygmy Adamantoise". Soooo, large beasts are a tad of a concern. Also, I do agree they could scale them down, which would need to be done to implement something like a Wivre or Behemoth. I mean not because of their general huge-ness, but can you imagine an 18 man alliance with 18 Behemoth's? Lag city and no. Hopefully if they do decide to add bigger pets like what you guys think... Wivre, Roc, etc, they can find a way to scale em back a little. I mean, Malboro has a Pygmy version, maybe we'll get one of those.

[WoW]

Not to nitpick, but Ralphie is a already scaled down version of Adamantoise... actually labeled "Pygmy Adamantoise". Soooo, large beasts are a tad of a concern. Also, I do agree they could scale them down, which would need to be done to implement something like a Wivre or Behemoth. I mean not because of their general huge-ness, but can you imagine an 18 man alliance with 18 Behemoth's? Lag city and no. Hopefully if they do decide to add bigger pets like what you guys think... Wivre, Roc, etc, they can find a way to scale em back a little. I mean, Malboro has a Pygmy version, maybe we'll get one of those.

Yea; that is why I stated that size was not an issue. if dragons can be scaled, I don't see how this could be an problem.

As it pertains to size being a issue in an alliance, the possibilitie of 9 raphie's and 9 titans are out there. I have no issue in besieged with multiple mamool ja riding large wivre, so.....yea...........Lag occurs regardless, multiple things going on at the same time will result in lag depending on your system. In XIV, ppl complained about unbearable lag, but I never experienced this lag in fates and whatnot "Shrugs"

Our strongest pets are the biggest pets. They found a way to give smns the powerful large avatars; why not bst? As a last resort, they could allow the larger monsters to be summoned for a short time, akin to smns/call beast in past final fantasy titles. For instance, An Elasmoth appears, performs a selected move, it hits everything in AOE range, then leaves, hence their aoe moves will not be an issue. The majority of a their moves are large range aoe, this will prevent unwanted adds as-well. They may have to remove meteor though, due to potential blm outcry. Ecliptic meteor is a monster only move iirc, hence no feelings will be hurt.

Imo, pet jobs should not be implemented if their most damaging tools are on the sidelines due to size. Bst has the potential to be an awesome dd, but we are being held back by crappy pets. I am not entirely convinced that the ready moves need to be boosted every half a year, the pets they choose to give us have crap ready moves to begin with. In monstrosity, the strongest dd can reach 800+ dmg at lvl57-ish, with like 220-ish attack to VT mobs (Mind you this is a pld monster, no beserk/war). I imagine they can perform better at lvl119.

Regardless of size, the best/most damaging pets are constantly glossed over. The mention of a Lucerewe is promising; in its' native form that is, which is a completely different issue that we all are aware of XD.