Empyrean Weapons upgrades.

[Damane]

My point is that current price for empy completely doesn't worth the effort, and it really deserve a buff.

Assuming HMP is 120k and cinder 1M, that's 180M for 95 and 240M total for a 99 cinder empy.

Alex price on my server just dropped to 8.5k. That's 255M for a mythic.

My point is that why spend 240M on an inferior weapon when you can add 15M for a much better weapon. By comparison empy is expensive because Mythic isn't much more expensive than an empy.

If empy is much stronger than it is now or soloable it won't feel that expensive.

the status quo on pricing was totally different 2-3 years ago, where mythics were astronomicly more expensiv to do and empys were cheap/on par with relics cost wise, when voidwatch was in full force. Changes will happen, dont demand how strong a weapon shoudl be by its "gil" cost but by teh amount of effort it needs, by your logic ergon locus weapon geo and run should totally destroy every other existing weapons across all jobs.

Mythics and ergon locus (RUN/GEO) need to most effort,
while relic and empy are on the same lvl in terms of effort, i would even say a relic needs a bit more effort due to the lvl 75-99 trials then a empy, but just a tiny bit.

for all we know it needs one update and empy weapons could end up the cheapest to do. Just like the salvage solo entry change made mythic considerable cheaper.

[Afania]

the status quo on pricing was totally different 2-3 years ago, where mythics were astronomicly more expensiv to do and empys were cheap/on par with relics cost wise, when voidwatch was in full force. Changes will happen, dont demand how strong a weapon shoudl be by its "gil" cost but by teh amount of effort it needs, by your logic ergon locus weapon geo and run should totally destroy every other existing weapons across all jobs.

Mythics and ergon locus (RUN/GEO) need to most effort,
while relic and empy are on the same lvl in terms of effort, i would even say a relic needs a bit more effort due to the lvl 75-99 trials then a empy, but just a tiny bit.

for all we know it needs one update and empy weapons could end up the cheapest to do. Just like the salvage solo entry change made mythic considerable cheaper.

Funny thing is when SE's made salvage/assault solo-able I predicted mythic will be bandwagon as hell with 6k alex, now it's slowly happening with everyone and their mother owning 5 mythics and shit out 1 mythic a few months(instead of a few years), lol.

[BurnNotice]

I hope we get a response to this thread soon.

[Metaking]

hmmm atm the most annoying thing to me for emps is other weapons are outdoing the ws made for them, and well that relic weapon skills are still unique to relics(i know 90% of the them are poor, but fair is fair). Mythic weapon skills are still most powerful with a mythic, and if relics weapon skills were learn-able they would still be best with a relic...

[Arbalest]

The only change I want made to the Empyrean weapon process is the ridiculousness of some of the trials. HMPs, Dross, cinder.. Marrows?

Though, I mostly want the stuff like Colorless Souls, horns, hearts, lanterns, etc changed to a lower amount.. or, they modify proc'ing so it's less counter-intuitive in Abyssea.