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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nidhogg View Post
    Gear Swapping shouldn't be allowed in the game, I full time my AF3+2 and off hand my Relic with my Mythic, I can't bring myself to do an Empyrean after all the work I did and all the people I used to get my Relic and Mythic

    Please SE add a penalty for Gear Swapping(Like in Brenner and Ballista), do you really think an NM is going to sit and watch you get undressed, then re-dress in front of them just so you can cast Ni 3 seconds faster? If I was Alfard I would stomp on the player in the middle of their gear change, I don't have all day to watch a Mithra get undressed to put on a bunch of Evasion Gear, or watch a Galka get undressed to put on a bunch of other gear to use Tachi: Jinpu
    An interesting post, and I do feel there a problems with the way this game handles gear-swapping. The system deffinitely needs an overhual, i'll give you that. In fact if there is one thing on this game I wish SE would pay attention it's this.

    Rather it's the annoying "blink" effect that occurs, wiping the current target of your entire party or your combat log being flooded with this useless and irritating equipment changed messages, it can drive me nuts.

    I'm not against gear swapping as an added form of game play. But I do feel if they are going to make it part of the gameplay, they need to make it less clunky and more user-friendly - else I agree with you, they should just scrap it and not allow players to change gear during battle.

    I doubt they are going to do this though, especially since there are so many annoying moves monsters do that remove equipment and such, as those would obviously have to be re-worked.
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    Last edited by Dale; 03-24-2011 at 02:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldarn View Post
    Ok, so I'm one of these lazy, ignorant ones. I'm doing something very wrong when I'm healing because I'm not using <stpt>/<stal>. Hell I'd never even heard it mentioned before that Haste thread last week. Please help me out.

    I'm not sure how to implement it to prevent gear swap blinking from making me lose my target when I Cure. I have Cure IV set up in my Macros as Ctrl-4 so it swaps in Cure Potency gear and /ma "Cure IV" <t>. When I want to Cure a party member, I use the d-pad on my controller to scroll to the player and then Ctrl-4. If the player changes gear in the second or so that it takes to Ctrl-4 then it loses focus and the spell fails. Also, when I'm scrolling down the player list and I happen to highlight someone who then changes gear, my pointer goes back to the top of the list. This tends to happen once every other fight these days as more than a few ppl playing on my server clearly either have conditional auto gear-swap macros using 3rd party tools, or just a serious gear-swap mania.

    Clearly I'm a noob, as the experienced players here have explained that all these troubles go away when you use <stpt>/<stal>. I usually go to ffxiclopedia for my info, but it doesn't go into specifics on how to implement this functionality.

    By the sounds of it, I'm doing something intrinsically wrong here (please don't say 'using a controller') and would appreciate some guidance on how to use these tags. Plzbnicetx

    instead of
    /ma "Cure IV" <t>
    make it
    /ma "Cure IV" <stpt>
    the curser will be down at the names of the people in your PT window, instead of them on the screen, there by avoiding the blink issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    instead of
    /ma "Cure IV" <t>
    make it
    /ma "Cure IV" <stpt>
    the curser will be down at the names of the people in your PT window, instead of them on the screen, there by avoiding the blink issue.
    Gotcha, so executing the macro won't cast the spell, like it did before - it'll just pop the arrow on the PT window. Thanks, that explains a lot. I was worried for a moment that I was expected to create a macro bar for each member of the party/alliance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    <stal> and <stpt> say hello
    I haven't tried these yet because the server has been down but I don't see how this is going to help. Not everone uses a macro to do simple things like cure other players with. I certainly don't.

    Does the person who actually is doing the gear swapping use these commands in their macro? Because unless they are -this would only help if you are in the middle of using a macroed command, so I really don't see it as being a solution at all. Would still bug the crap out of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Not everone uses a macro to do simple things like cure other players with. I certainly don't.
    Surely you swap in Cure Potency gear (a Light Staff?) at the very least? Oh, unless you're a PLD I guess...
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    Player Dale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldarn View Post
    Surely you swap in Cure Potency gear (a Light Staff?) at the very least? Oh, unless you're a PLD I guess...
    Yes i'm a Paladin and there is no way on earth i'd ever give up all of my current TP to heal with a light staff.
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    Last edited by Dale; 03-24-2011 at 02:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nidhogg View Post
    Gear Swapping shouldn't be allowed in the game, I full time my AF3+2 and off hand my Relic with my Mythic, I can't bring myself to do an Empyrean after all the work I did and all the people I used to get my Relic and Mythic

    Please SE add a penalty for Gear Swapping(Like in Brenner and Ballista), do you really think an NM is going to sit and watch you get undressed, then re-dress in front of them just so you can cast Ni 3 seconds faster? If I was Alfard I would stomp on the player in the middle of their gear change, I don't have all day to watch a Mithra get undressed to put on a bunch of Evasion Gear, or watch a Galka get undressed to put on a bunch of other gear to use Tachi: Jinpu

    Really need to go to FFXIV if you do not macros, the only way this can happen if SE makes gear that would replace everything. back at 75 macros in some situations/ jobs macros where needed to get the job done.

    you cannot be casting for damage in Enfeebling gear and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Yes <stal> does work while ppl are swapping gear, i use it on my whm...still doesn't work on drg's doing jumps though... SE needs to fix that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neika View Post
    Yes <stal> does work while ppl are swapping gear, i use it on my whm...still doesn't work on drg's doing jumps though... SE needs to fix that.
    post in bug section?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Spending Gil = Game balance, next question please tia
    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    They're reading and agreeing that these are very good ideas.... to be implemented to rune fencer.

    Just like any good suggestions in the RDM thread get applied to SCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neika View Post
    Yes <stal> does work while ppl are swapping gear, i use it on my whm...still doesn't work on drg's doing jumps though... SE needs to fix that.
    do you mean super jump?
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