Enmity

[Dale]

Are.. You serious? I'm not getting trolled am I? I even explained this in my post. Did you read it? The part about Cure Kits(cheats)? Well, I'll try again.

The reason someone would cure themselves when they haven't been damaged is for the enmity. Cause they aren't going to cure for 0. A cure kit, is when you use gear swaps to create a difference between your current and max hp. That difference can then be filled by curing. So, Equip hp-, then convert hp>mp gear, start casting cure, remove all the -gear and equip HP+ and enmity gear. That's a cure kit.

They were created, and mostly used when tanking /nin, since you didn't take dmg, but did lose small amounts of hate via shadow loss. But after the introduction of atonement and the accompanying increase in PLDs DD output, they were regulated to a back up form of enmity gain. As Atonement spam is far more effective if you can tp/ws the mob. Cure kits are still useful if you can't DD a mob, but if you can DD they're now mostly a waste of time.

I really want to know how you didn't know what a cure kit is. How long have you been a PLD? Did you never tank any HNM type mobs? Or any major NMS at all?

It is Cure kit spam, Which greatguardian brought up while when mentioning the low efficiency of cure enmity, that I object to. Which is what i thought you were advocating, initially. But Greatguardian also noted that curing for survival is fine, just not good hate compared to DD.

But you know.. Since you apparently aren't advocating cure kits, and arguing for normal cures as a source of hate.. that's even worse for your argument. Because someone must take dmg to be cured. And if you have hate, that's you, losing hate to be able to cure. 2 steps forward, one step back. And the rate of Curing is limited by how fast you're taking dmg. Once your HP is full, you stop getting hate via cures. DD just keeps on rollin'.



I didn't sidestep your point. I addressed it directly.

"You have this backwards. A pld who is continuously interrupting his DPS and TP gain to cast poor enmity spells like cure will generate far less enmity than a PLD focused on his damage output. Sure, I'll cure if I need to, but if I've got a whm standing behind me, I'll let them cure while I kill the mob."

I seem to recall addressing the job concern already too..

"I don't want to be a MNK, NIN, or any other job. I want to be, an effective, efficient, and useful PLD. And I'm doing everything I can to reach that, despite PLDs unfavorable situation."

Did you read my posts? Why am I addressing the same points over and over with no change to counter my argument.

Well if you would respond to me in a single post without splitting it up in a million different sections like you are writing a freaking book with chapters perhaps i could follow your replies better

Firstly - i never suggested paladins should do weak cures and spam them for crap enmity. That is a retarded strat, and silly how you are going off on this acting like that's what i suggested paladins do. But i've talked about this nonsense enough - so i'm moving on. I never said they should do that.

And you did sidestep my point, and you are still side stepping a point. A paladin curing himself to recover his hp while doing melee and weapon skills will generate more enmity than a paldin who does nothing but melee and do weapon skills. Now of course a paladin who spends all his time spamming weak cures to for crap enmity is not going to be effective, but i never suggested a paladin do that.

In short - you understimate how effective casting powerful heals on yourself to recover at least 400 hps back on yourself while tanking is for creating extra enmity. And if you want me to counter your arguments argue about something i actually said.

Now that being said stop complaining about my inability to follow your responses. If you want me to follow them better, stop splitting your replies up into so many different sections. Otherwise, stop complaining about it