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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahamut View Post
    You know, I got a great idea how to fix the gear swaping issue, I think I'll post that next.

    it is fixed, was fixed a long time ago, it is called <STPT> and for alliance I think its.... <STAL>?

    People are just lazy and do not want to change their macros/still want something to complain about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    it is fixed, was fixed a long time ago, it is called <STPT> and for alliance I think its.... <STAL>?

    People are just lazy and do not want to change their macros/still want something to complain about.
    Ok, so I'm one of these lazy, ignorant ones. I'm doing something very wrong when I'm healing because I'm not using <stpt>/<stal>. Hell I'd never even heard it mentioned before that Haste thread last week. Please help me out.

    I'm not sure how to implement it to prevent gear swap blinking from making me lose my target when I Cure. I have Cure IV set up in my Macros as Ctrl-4 so it swaps in Cure Potency gear and /ma "Cure IV" <t>. When I want to Cure a party member, I use the d-pad on my controller to scroll to the player and then Ctrl-4. If the player changes gear in the second or so that it takes to Ctrl-4 then it loses focus and the spell fails. Also, when I'm scrolling down the player list and I happen to highlight someone who then changes gear, my pointer goes back to the top of the list. This tends to happen once every other fight these days as more than a few ppl playing on my server clearly either have conditional auto gear-swap macros using 3rd party tools, or just a serious gear-swap mania.

    Clearly I'm a noob, as the experienced players here have explained that all these troubles go away when you use <stpt>/<stal>. I usually go to ffxiclopedia for my info, but it doesn't go into specifics on how to implement this functionality.

    By the sounds of it, I'm doing something intrinsically wrong here (please don't say 'using a controller') and would appreciate some guidance on how to use these tags. Plzbnicetx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldarn View Post
    Ok, so I'm one of these lazy, ignorant ones. I'm doing something very wrong when I'm healing because I'm not using <stpt>/<stal>. Hell I'd never even heard it mentioned before that Haste thread last week. Please help me out.

    I'm not sure how to implement it to prevent gear swap blinking from making me lose my target when I Cure. I have Cure IV set up in my Macros as Ctrl-4 so it swaps in Cure Potency gear and /ma "Cure IV" <t>. When I want to Cure a party member, I use the d-pad on my controller to scroll to the player and then Ctrl-4. If the player changes gear in the second or so that it takes to Ctrl-4 then it loses focus and the spell fails. Also, when I'm scrolling down the player list and I happen to highlight someone who then changes gear, my pointer goes back to the top of the list. This tends to happen once every other fight these days as more than a few ppl playing on my server clearly either have conditional auto gear-swap macros using 3rd party tools, or just a serious gear-swap mania.

    Clearly I'm a noob, as the experienced players here have explained that all these troubles go away when you use <stpt>/<stal>. I usually go to ffxiclopedia for my info, but it doesn't go into specifics on how to implement this functionality.

    By the sounds of it, I'm doing something intrinsically wrong here (please don't say 'using a controller') and would appreciate some guidance on how to use these tags. Plzbnicetx

    instead of
    /ma "Cure IV" <t>
    make it
    /ma "Cure IV" <stpt>
    the curser will be down at the names of the people in your PT window, instead of them on the screen, there by avoiding the blink issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    instead of
    /ma "Cure IV" <t>
    make it
    /ma "Cure IV" <stpt>
    the curser will be down at the names of the people in your PT window, instead of them on the screen, there by avoiding the blink issue.
    Gotcha, so executing the macro won't cast the spell, like it did before - it'll just pop the arrow on the PT window. Thanks, that explains a lot. I was worried for a moment that I was expected to create a macro bar for each member of the party/alliance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldarn View Post
    Ok, so I'm one of these lazy, ignorant ones. I'm doing something very wrong when I'm healing because I'm not using <stpt>/<stal>. Hell I'd never even heard it mentioned before that Haste thread last week. Please help me out.

    I'm not sure how to implement it to prevent gear swap blinking from making me lose my target when I Cure. I have Cure IV set up in my Macros as Ctrl-4 so it swaps in Cure Potency gear and /ma "Cure IV" <t>. When I want to Cure a party member, I use the d-pad on my controller to scroll to the player and then Ctrl-4. If the player changes gear in the second or so that it takes to Ctrl-4 then it loses focus and the spell fails. Also, when I'm scrolling down the player list and I happen to highlight someone who then changes gear, my pointer goes back to the top of the list. This tends to happen once every other fight these days as more than a few ppl playing on my server clearly either have conditional auto gear-swap macros using 3rd party tools, or just a serious gear-swap mania.

    Clearly I'm a noob, as the experienced players here have explained that all these troubles go away when you use <stpt>/<stal>. I usually go to ffxiclopedia for my info, but it doesn't go into specifics on how to implement this functionality.

    By the sounds of it, I'm doing something intrinsically wrong here (please don't say 'using a controller') and would appreciate some guidance on how to use these tags. Plzbnicetx
    Make sure your cure call with the <stal> tag is the first line in the macro, followed by gear swaps. It won't do anything until you select target. If you swap then call cure, you could shoot yourself in the foot a little with the extra lag:

    /ma "Cure IV" <stal>
    /equip lines

    If you feel the need to announce who you are curing on you can use the last target flag in the chat line at the end. Forget what it was, but should be on the wiki.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    it is fixed, was fixed a long time ago, it is called <STPT> and for alliance I think its.... <STAL>?

    People are just lazy and do not want to change their macros/still want something to complain about.
    Gee, as if I hadn't been using both of those ever since they were implemented. No I have have to be insulted for even suggesting a way to change it at the source. Nope it's too hard to say "that's a good idea", instead it's a lot easier to say "do this you lazy idiot". Which one of those took longer to type? The compliment or the insult? Get over yourselves and take my suggestion for what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anethia View Post
    Gee, as if I hadn't been using both of those ever since they were implemented. No I have have to be insulted for even suggesting a way to change it at the source. Nope it's too hard to say "that's a good idea", instead it's a lot easier to say "do this you lazy idiot". Which one of those took longer to type? The compliment or the insult? Get over yourselves and take my suggestion for what it is.
    Anathia, don't let them get to you.

    The truth is expecting people to make a seperate macro for every command you ever do just so you can add <stal> on the end of it is ridiculous. It's as if manual play on any level becomes "lazy" in their words, which is pretty ironic.

    We should all just admit the system needs some work, and hopefully SE will fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    Anathia, don't let them get to you.

    The truth is expecting people to make a seperate macro for every command you ever do just so you can add <stal> on the end of it is ridiculous. It's as if manual play on any level becomes "lazy" in their words, which is pretty ironic.

    We should all just admit the system needs some work, and hopefully SE will fix it.
    as a WHM when I leveled it I had a diffrent macro for each of my PT members for cure, so I have 6 macros just for cure.

    and really? you dont have to make macros for everything, just the important stuff that needs to be cast ASAP, like cure, and provke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa View Post
    as a WHM when I leveled it I had a diffrent macro for each of my PT members for cure, so I have 6 macros just for cure.

    and really? you dont have to make macros for everything, just the important stuff that needs to be cast ASAP, like cure, and provke
    Ah why if it's Kailea, i should have known you would find me sooner or later.

    You make my point for me. Having to make 6 different macros just for just a cure so you can avoid an annoying deisign flaw says it all. And that's not even taking into the account the constant stream of annoying useless yellow spam that will flood your combat log as a result.

    The system needs work, and the fact you are willing to write a million pointless macros doesn't change this fact.

    And no, you would have to write one for everything you do if you want to avoid the target cancellation effect, not just things you need to cast ASAP.
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