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    Player Leonardus's Avatar
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    Totally agree Olor.

    As a BST with my friends, I'm usually co-tanking something, or just fully outright. Unfortunately it does burn through Theta biscuits and sometimes mulsums, but I don't mind making more when needed.

    I'd also love to use a shield, but there are very few decent ones, and in doing so, you lose equipping a 2nd axe with pet attributes on it, so it's just not useful in most situations.

    Quote Originally Posted by WoW View Post
    Good point; I was a tank during the abyssea era; holding hate while the blm land procs, etc, It can be done. I am uncertain if SE would do this; the right pets can tank, however, we never get the right pets..
    SE gave us AttentiveIbuki, she has a large amount of slashing resistance, which is great for tanking quite a few enemies, so I would not say "never."
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    Last edited by Leonardus; 04-30-2014 at 11:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonardus View Post
    SE gave us AttentiveIbuki, she has a large amount of slashing resistance, which is great for tanking quite a few enemies, so I would not say "never."
    It also iirc has an attack and defense penalty and mediocre base stats to be with. Will have less defense than the bst generally even unbuffed. Also has +50% peircing dmg taken
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonardus View Post
    Totally agree Olor.

    As a BST with my friends, I'm usually co-tanking something, or just fully outright. Unfortunately it does burn through Theta biscuits and sometimes mulsums, but I don't mind making more when needed.

    I'd also love to use a shield, but there are very few decent ones, and in doing so, you lose equipping a 2nd axe with pet attributes on it, so it's just not useful in most situations.



    SE gave us AttentiveIbuki, she has a large amount of slashing resistance, which is great for tanking quite a few enemies, so I would not say "never."
    Too bad not all mobs do slashing dmg XD

    But my point was, SE is notorious for removing special abilities from pets. Also, there were ppl complaining about pet survivability, hence i am not sure Ibuki is cutting it. There are better tanking pets out there, that is all I am saying. Telfaires pose not thread to me, even when I am using slashing against them. Their def is less than stellar. However, slimes have resistance against several weapon types.
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  4. #244
    Player Leonardus's Avatar
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    WoW, I really doubt SE will give us a slime. What are they, -50 to -75% resistant to everything?

    Logically, we can expect an evasive pet, another Gerard or something with similar special defenses like Ibuki. If you guys mention defense too much, we'll get CrudeRaphie 2.0. (What a pain in the butt synth that was...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonardus View Post
    WoW, I really doubt SE will give us a slime. What are they, -50 to -75% resistant to everything?

    Logically, we can expect an evasive pet, another Gerard or something with similar special defenses like Ibuki. If you guys mention defense too much, we'll get CrudeRaphie 2.0. (What a pain in the butt synth that was...)
    Most bosses use elemental special attacks; hence they would not be invincible. SE could also give us a crab pet with all of his moves intact. Venom shower and mega scissors will not break the game. The charmable crabs in rala use it; I mean, big deal, your pet does respectable dmg (Like a 119 pet should), whoopdeedoo. It is not like bst have any offensive JAs beside killer instinct.

    Raphie was awesome (In theory, like all of our mystery jugs), but something was not right about him. His defense and hp were suspect. however, SE may think the same as you Leo; which is why our pets are always stripped down. Their wild counterparts have all of their native abilities so should the jugs. Otherwise delete bst from the game, if you cannot give us the good stuff, why bother with bst? Also Leo, slimes were on the bst poll last year; they are not out of the question. A wivre, Uragnite, rala esque crab, ruszor, and gnats appear to be to be superior tanks. BTW SE, any plans for another bst pet poll? A detailed poll with move suggestions would be awesome^^
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    Player Tennotsukai's Avatar
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    Another pet poll would be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennotsukai View Post
    Another pet poll would be awesome.
    Yes, it would^^ You see what the last one produced; Falcorr was insane at that time.

    Better than any non-poll jug imo (That includes Ibuki, falcorr is pretty old; not sure he caps as high)

    Edit: Dasva mentioned a poll with move suggestions, that would kill off the "mystery pet" vibe. We need these polls imo; the players appear to know their stuff; I mean, look at falcorr, he is by far the best jug ever. A DD/Tank? wow (No pun intended lol).
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonardus View Post

    I'd also love to use a shield, but there are very few decent ones, and in doing so, you lose equipping a 2nd axe with pet attributes on it, so it's just not useful in most situations.
    I agree there are not any shields worth using really - which is why I said if they were going to make us a tank they should give us better ones (one with 25% DT for our pet would be awesome, for example) - Even if they don't make us a tank they should give us some shields which are not utter crap, or just give us dual wield already so I don't have to gimp myself further with a non-DD sub.
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    Shields are cool, however, the majority of bst i see dual wield axes. A Native dual wield trait may be nice (I believe this was already discussed though). Would allow us to sub war, hence dd more efficiently.
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    Was really hoping to see more on Beastmaster on Job adjustments page, please uncap more jugs and take some advice from thread.
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