Yeah but what I was talking about was that (And this is what actually got me thinking) that some were arguing that thief is more of a single player rpg job, not an mmorpg job. Corsair too but corsair could maybe just be renamed, thief has had an unfair monopoly on what should have been abilities for all the jobs. Treasure hunter? That should have been given to all jobs, all the steal abilities too but instead they brought in thief and, well, basically enabled many of the rmt players and caused much of the problems they ended up having to hire a task force to deal with. And you could say well there was no stopping that but still, they might have had a bit more control over it had they just left thief out. Now that I think of it a luck attribute (of any kind) would just "explain" thief being here not really make it fair to have thief here. If that makes sense. But it would at least make it fair for corsair.