Will the recent Delve changes also apply to the new Delve II?

[Lsvtec]

Beat Tojil, Dakuwaqa, or Muyingwa 6 man without any 119 gear outside of maybe RF1/2+1. Don't worry, I'll wait.

have done it several times, took gimps in like yourself and have beat with 15-20mins left, care to make anymore excuses as to why u cant beat it? Oh wait i forgot Delve is srs bizness yo! Jokes aside i dont think they should nerf anything anymore make it just as challenging as it was when it first came out and stick u casual gimps to the ROE equipment because delve is hard QQ

[Demonjustin]

have done it several times, took gimps in like yourself and have beat with 15-20mins left, care to make anymore excuses as to why u cant beat it? Oh wait i forgot Delve is srs bizness yo! Jokes aside i dont think they should nerf anything anymore make it just as challenging as it was when it first came out and stick u casual gimps to the ROE equipment because delve is hard QQ

Like myself? Ha... I have a name as one of the best RDMs on Phoenix and finished these NMs long ago back in the first couple months of release, I am far from a gimp or someone who can't beat it, don't even try to act as though you know me. All your post boils down to is insults toward others you know nothing about while you assume their intentions or abilities from their arguments against you.

You know what, I'll believe that you 6-manned the Bosses with non-119 gear when you show me a video, ya know why I have doubts though? You talk all big and bad, how you finished these NMs in the months following their release, how likely do you think anyone here is to believe that you would have honestly done these NMs 6 man without the gear obtained in those battles? I don't mean using things like 113 gear as in armor, I mainly meant the weapons you would have to use that wouldn't even give you enough accuracy to land your blows seeing as last I knew the NMs in these zones still have their EVA & DEF they normally would, they just have lower HP. At 117 weapon Accuracy and without some of the more high end gear like the MPNMs I highly doubt you would even hit them really let alone kill them.

This is all pointless though, because you will do nothing more than continue to block with pathetic insults such as 'y u so gimp?' I'm sure rather than trying to prove wrong the point that in order to get the Delve wins people are basically unable to get wins anymore without buying them due to the lack of shouts existing at all and the fact you need 119 gear to beat these bosses 6 man. If you can do it so easily though, why not record it then? Prove me wrong, you have done is 'several times' right? Should be no issue to simply record it or have a party member record it for you one run as proof I would think.

[Lsvtec]

Like myself? Ha... I have a name as one of the best RDMs on Phoenix and finished these NMs long ago back in the first couple months of release, I am far from a gimp or someone who can't beat it, don't even try to act as though you know me. All your post boils down to is insults toward others you know nothing about while you assume their intentions or abilities from their arguments against you.

You know what, I'll believe that you 6-manned the Bosses with non-119 gear when you show me a video, ya know why I have doubts though? You talk all big and bad, how you finished these NMs in the months following their release, how likely do you think anyone here is to believe that you would have honestly done these NMs 6 man without the gear obtained in those battles? I don't mean using things like 113 gear as in armor, I mainly meant the weapons you would have to use that wouldn't even give you enough accuracy to land your blows seeing as last I knew the NMs in these zones still have their EVA & DEF they normally would, they just have lower HP. At 117 weapon Accuracy and without some of the more high end gear like the MPNMs I highly doubt you would even hit them really let alone kill them.

This is all pointless though, because you will do nothing more than continue to block with pathetic insults such as 'y u so gimp?' I'm sure rather than trying to prove wrong the point that in order to get the Delve wins people are basically unable to get wins anymore without buying them due to the lack of shouts existing at all and the fact you need 119 gear to beat these bosses 6 man. If you can do it so easily though, why not record it then? Prove me wrong, you have done is 'several times' right? Should be no issue to simply record it or have a party member record it for you one run as proof I would think.

you being a good rdm in delve means absolutely dick to me as well as your name LAWL, seeing as enfeebles can be landed by the sch, wat needs to be proved? ive got the gear/kis ur agruements are nothing but a joke point blank period im just sick of seeing all of u QQ over not having wins, when the people that bitch about not having said gear are lazy and dont get up and put the time into their toon that is needed to clear said content.... my post wasnt directly aimed at anyone just in general so stop taking what i type to heart, judging by wat u typed tho i can see the butthurt welling up inside u, im done here but i know ur getting started u keyboard commando u

[Olor]

Oh god, well even if I suck at FFXI I can console myself knowing that at least I can string a sentence together that doesn't make me sound like a gimp in real life.

At any rate - my point is, if the only thing that turning delve into 6-mannable content did was make it HARDER for new players to complete it - then it was a waste of development time and never should have been done in the first place. If the goal was to make it easier for people without wins to complete, it failed utterly because HP of the NMs was never the main problem.

In reality I don't care if people use spellcast - however, I do care when people who do use spellcast then cast aspersions on those of us who play vanilla, and act like they are better players, when in reality - they are cheating. And I do care if folks who are cheating whine about content not being hard enough.

I don't particularly care if folks think I just suck yada yada ya, really couldn't care less. I am a paying customer who would like to have access to content though.

[Selindrile]

Fellas, you're both pretty.

But I have to ask, isn't being the best Rdm somewhat akin to being the fastest snail, or the highest jumping elephant?

Meaning, even if you are, it's not all that useful, lol, though I actually just posted on someone's "improve Rdm" thread, so I couldn't help but make the joke.

[Demonjustin]

you being a good rdm in delve means absolutely dick to me as well as your name LAWL, seeing as enfeebles can be landed by the sch, wat needs to be proved? ive got the gear/kis ur agruements are nothing but a joke point blank period im just sick of seeing all of u QQ over not having wins

Did you fail to understand my point was that I'm not a bad player nor gimp and have each of these KIs and yet still side with these people? Did that really just simply go over your head? The point of saying that I am a well known RDM on Phoenix is to point out that who you're talking to isn't just another one of the people you would classify as gimp who are unable to get their wins or the like, but rather someone who knows what they're talking about and yet still fundamentally disagrees with you. It's one thing to argue with someone who is ignorant to the content or complaining about content they are unable to complete, it's a whole other story to argue against someone who could be considered your equal in the subject.

when the people that bitch about not having said gear are lazy and dont get up and put the time into their toon that is needed to clear said content.... my post wasnt directly aimed at anyone just in general so stop taking what i type to heart, judging by wat u typed tho i can see the butthurt welling up inside u, im done here but i know ur getting started u keyboard commando u

It's not butthurt, it's the fact I hate that people are so stupid as to think that anyone who wants certain change must in fact be directly affected by the change. I support removing CoP as a requirement for Reforging gear for instance, the fact it doesn't help me at all doesn't make any difference, I can still support it, but people seem to think if you aren't personally restricted by something you aren't allowed to actually argue for the change of said restrictions. As for not being directly aimed at anyone... perhaps you fail to understand how english works, this, is directly aiming a comment at someone...

have done it several times, took gimps in like yourself

Designating me, rather than saying just people in general.

Seeing as you failed to acknowledge anything pertaining to the crux of my argument and instead chose to focus on the fact I attempted to point out why you should actually listen to what I say rather than dismissing it as being a 'gimp' simply complaining about being unable to beat content, I will assume you won't be proving me wrong about being able to beat the content with 6 people and no 119 gear outside of Reforged Gear.

[Camiie]

have done it several times, took gimps in like yourself and have beat with 15-20mins left, care to make anymore excuses as to why u cant beat it? Oh wait i forgot Delve is srs bizness yo! Jokes aside i dont think they should nerf anything anymore make it just as challenging as it was when it first came out and stick u casual gimps to the ROE equipment because delve is hard QQ

In my nearly 10 years on FFXI, I've found that those who do the most barking are seldom the biggest dogs.

[Demonjustin]

But I have to ask, isn't being the best Rdm somewhat akin to being the fastest snail, or the highest jumping elephant?

Meaning, even if you are, it's not all that useful, lol

The point of saying it isn't to brag though, I'm not saying it because I think I'm cool, the point is to dispel the argument that I am in some way a player ignorant to that of which I speak, that I could be thought of as a player who has not done or completed the content and it is for that reason I agree that it should be changed. Basically, I point it out because I want to make it clear that I am a player who knows what they're talking about and shouldn't be dismissed because of some asinine view that anyone who wants something to change must by definition be affected by such change. I often support changes that have no affect on me and yet it seems like so many people have the asinine impression that only those who are affected care, and at the same time that they are simply whining about things because of the fact they can't or don't feel like completing it.

I point this out only because I feel like maybe if I do maybe I can get a bit more credibility to my argument rather than so many people dismissing it like they do with others who disagree with them.

[Selindrile]

Credibility is usually lost when claiming to be good, especially when you use the word "best", at something, rather than gained.

I certainly don't have a dog in the fight nor am I calling you good or bad, I was just pointing out the humor value of the statement, even, perhaps especially, if true.

[Calatilla]

The thing about MMO's is that they're team based for the most part. Saying "I'm" awesome because "I" beat delve is kinda wrong because if the other people with you suck you alone aint gonna win it, no matter how awesome you think you are.

I guess thats why elitist don't like helping noobs get wins, because if you surround yourself with nubs you start looking like one.