Full Perle

[Khajit]

Byakko has been soloed at 80? By whom?

Avesta did it at 80 right after the patch as a rdm. Lv 90 nin and some other jobs have killed it solo at this point now as well but it's long and boring imo and easier to just get help.
Because of this if you have any friends it can be easily killed by a DD whm and thf (if memory from what others whom have done so is correct)with any extra people coming along to help if you wish.(preferably in a support role like enfeebling or refresh/buffs to not tpfeed Byakko) Byakko was already killable with 5 at lv 75 so it's no stretch that some decently people with at least a clue at lv 90 can kill it for you. Tbh the hardest part now is getting diorite to drop since despot's aery is gone.

You're talking about getting gear that a lot of people don't have access too compaired to something that is basically free and readily available.

dusk gloves are less than 10k in ah, leveling to 80 or 85 nets enough gil from cruor/dominion notes to buy dusk+1 feet if there isnt some other cheap/easy option to wear, Nyzul isle is ridiculously easy atm and the stp from askar body beats out full perle if they have the same haste as perle when x-hit's are involved, walmart turban is not yet hard to get although you need more gil to buy the coins instead of using IS if unlucky but otherwise it's easy to get, Ace's sabatons is a 100% drop and there are enough people spamming empy from the mob(which just happens to be soloable too) that simply asking if you can have the drop is bound to work eventually, i'll admit homam legs is actually trouble to get thanks to the time restrictions on limbus and that the tonberry for aces hose isn't anything id expect a noob to get easily killed but in the end it means that perle is already beaten if a person has some/any help at all and can be beaten within a days worth of effort.
That same day's worth of effort can also obtain several +1 pieces if people you know wish to focus on putting one at a point to do away with full perle.

[Auredant]

Avesta did it at 80 right after the patch as a rdm. Lv 90 nin and some other jobs have killed it solo at this point now as well but it's long and boring imo and easier to just get help.
Because of this if you have any friends it can be easily killed by a DD whm and thf (if memory from what others whom have done so is correct)with any extra people coming along to help if you wish.(preferably in a support role like enfeebling or refresh/buffs to not tpfeed Byakko) Byakko was already killable with 5 at lv 75 so it's no stretch that some decently people with at least a clue at lv 90 can kill it for you. Tbh the hardest part now is getting diorite to drop since despot's aery is gone.



dusk gloves are less than 10k in ah, leveling to 80 or 85 nets enough gil from cruor/dominion notes to buy dusk+1 feet if there isnt some other cheap/easy option to wear, Nyzul isle is ridiculously easy atm and the stp from askar body beats out full perle if they have the same haste as perle when x-hit's are involved, walmart turban is not yet hard to get although you need more gil to buy the coins instead of using IS if unlucky but otherwise it's easy to get, Ace's sabatons is a 100% drop and there are enough people spamming empy from the mob(which just happens to be soloable too) that simply asking if you can have the drop is bound to work eventually, i'll admit homam legs is actually trouble to get thanks to the time restrictions on limbus and that the tonberry for aces hose isn't anything id expect a noob to get easily killed but in the end it means that perle is already beaten if a person has some/any help at all and can be beaten within a days worth of effort.
That same day's worth of effort can also obtain several +1 pieces if people you know wish to focus on putting one at a point to do away with full perle.

I've only seen clips of it bein soloed at 90, not saying ur wrong mind you...thats one bad lil taru...but 1 person doing it and saying soloable by some jobs at 80 are 2 different things. Makes it sound commonplace and is misleading. But this game is full of people saying everything is soloable so, not at all surprising.

[Khajit]

The original point was when i mentioned the solo is that if it was soloable at 80 then 10 levels later it can easily be taken down by a pt or less of the "average" player. It being taken down by a single party was already increasingly commonplace at 75 The only reason the solos aren't commonplace is because it takes forever to do so and there are much more fun things to kill instead that have non outdated drops ( barring haidate for an increasingly small job pool with it being relegated to a misc gearswap for some)aka just about everything in abyssea.

[Harpalina]

AF3+2 not being sold by a vendor does not make Perle good gear. It's already been mentioned that it is passable at best for new/returning players. However, it's not something to get comfortable in. It is bad gear. It is better than being naked, but you want to get out of it ASAP. Considering all AF3+1 can be solo'd in Quests if someone doesn't have the playtime to kill the NMs, there's really no reason to advocate Perle.

I shouldn't need to tell anyone wearing Perle that Perle is crap. They should know that it is crap, and be on their way to replace it. I highly doubt anyone, even on BG, would fault players who are actively working on better gear. It's only people who stop, settle with Perle, and decide that it's "good enough for them" that get ragged on.

I agree to a certain degree. Perle shouldn't be advocated to be the best gear, but the stats aren't half bad. They're excellent in the 78-80 range. Maybe even a little higher than that. Yeah everyone should strive to get the AF3+1's or +2's but I don't think you should be admonished for wearing Perle/Teal/Aurore gear. Like I have mentioned earlier, I'm wearing 2 to 3 pieces of the gear, mostly due to gear swapping of WS mods. And if a player doesn't have the means to solo every seal for all five pieces of their AF3's, then they don't have the means. Does it make them nooby? Not in the least. But I do agree that being complacent is where noobishness hits; one should always strive to be better.

[Raka]

As long as you don't use full Empyrean(un-upgraded), Perle is fine in my book. o.oy

[TearValerin]

I agree to a certain degree. Perle shouldn't be advocated to be the best gear, but the stats aren't half bad. They're excellent in the 78-80 range. Maybe even a little higher than that. Yeah everyone should strive to get the AF3+1's or +2's but I don't think you should be admonished for wearing Perle/Teal/Aurore gear. Like I have mentioned earlier, I'm wearing 2 to 3 pieces of the gear, mostly due to gear swapping of WS mods. And if a player doesn't have the means to solo every seal for all five pieces of their AF3's, then they don't have the means. Does it make them nooby? Not in the least. But I do agree that being complacent is where noobishness hits; one should always strive to be better.

To me, yes it does make them noobish, because anyone can go out and get a shout group to get your AF done. I went around thinking it was difficult without a proper LS, and was proven wrong. I now have a full set of +1 or 2 AF3 for my jobs, from shout groups, and being a big boy rather than sitting around and complaining its too hard.

[Harpalina]

To me, yes it does make them noobish, because anyone can go out and get a shout group to get your AF done. I went around thinking it was difficult without a proper LS, and was proven wrong. I now have a full set of +1 or 2 AF3 for my jobs, from shout groups, and being a big boy rather than sitting around and complaining its too hard.

Well, to each his/her own. I don't base a player solely on ones' accomplishments (i.e. gear.), but more so on how they play their character. I try not to make petty judgments.

[Harpalina]

And also another thing to add, I would rather take someone who has full Perle gear and can perform their job well, than someone with full AF3+2 thinking their sh*t don't stink and treat other players like crap.

[Yarly]

full perle or bust!
best gearset in the game, use it forever.

[TearValerin]

Well, to each his/her own. I don't base a player solely on ones' accomplishments (i.e. gear.), but more so on how they play their character. I try not to make petty judgments.

About 3 weeks ago, I was in a La Theine worms alliance. There were 12 melee DDs, each wearing pre 75 equipment, or full cruor set, and 1 drg with a few pieces AF3, and AF2+1. Her Drakesbane outparsed the party by 65%. When you have 6-8 DDs spamming their strongest WS to kill one worm, yet the drg next to you is soloing that worm, we have a problem. Lazy DDs are bad DDs. If they make excuses for not having at least the next best thing (like a thf wearing 50s daggers because he thought they looked cool, or mnk using afflictors for same reason) then they are no good to me.