Job points = another form of merit points?

[Aldersyde]

Why were there only 3 decent camps in ToAu. Same reason there will be only a couple of decent camps in SoA. What made the bird camp the best camp was number of mobs, how fast they spawn and how little they did. You only went to the other camps when the bird camp was taken and only went to trolls when you had no other choice. So far I haven't seen one camp that is anywhere near as good as bird camp and only a hand full that came any where close to Mamool Ja staging point. Then toss in all the people running around with trust NPCs and camps get even tighter.

Another thing I seen a couple time is people think that book burns will be viable for JPs, they won't be since the JPs will only be coming from the mobs. Knowing SE the amount of JP a mob gives will be tied to how much exp they give and there is a very high chance they won't be 1:1 so that limits camps even more. Any way you try to slice it there are not enough camps.

All this. Sure SoA zones are full of mobs...mostly mobs no one in their right mind would want to fight if they wanted a good return on the effort expended.

[Xantavia]

All this. Sure SoA zones are full of mobs...mostly mobs no one in their right mind would want to fight if they wanted a good return on the effort expended.

Yup, that has been the key all along when it comes to "no camps". It is more that some players don't want to fight mobs that make them have to pay attention to what they are doing. They want mobs with low defense, low offense, and relatively safe tp moves

[Ravenmore]

Yup, that has been the key all along when it comes to "no camps". It is more that some players don't want to fight mobs that make them have to pay attention to what they are doing. They want mobs with low defense, low offense, and relatively safe tp moves

It's more then that, what they want is speed and to make the most of their play time, mobs that are harder are slower to kill. More so the brds and healers that are whoring out those jobs to gear their DDs are going to want speed far more then the DDs just wanting to get something. Back at 75 I could find DDs even good DDs all day that would be more then willing to go kill trolls just to make some progress but getting that rdm or brd to go was not going to happen unless they owed you a favor. So when you say some players what you really should say is most support classes and when the people that are class whoring are done they won't be taking one for the team and getting on those jobs to help they will be seeking on their DDs to cap them out.

[Damane]

It's more then that, what they want is speed and to make the most of their play time, mobs that are harder are slower to kill. More so the brds and healers that are whoring out those jobs to gear their DDs are going to want speed far more then the DDs just wanting to get something. Back at 75 I could find DDs even good DDs all day that would be more then willing to go kill trolls just to make some progress but getting that rdm or brd to go was not going to happen unless they owed you a favor. So when you say some players what you really should say is most support classes and when the people that are class whoring are done they won't be taking one for the team and getting on those jobs to help they will be seeking on their DDs to cap them out.

camps are limited for sure, but this time its a bit different. If I didnt misunderstand this, you actually need to be on that job to accumalte JP for it. So yeah whoreing out your Melee Jobs with BRD doesnt work. But that doesnt matter since any 6 man pt will overkill any camp way faster then it ever was done in ToAU era (assuming the melees dont suck).

[detlef]

camps are limited for sure, but this time its a bit different. If I didnt misunderstand this, you actually need to be on that job to accumalte JP for it. So yeah whoreing out your Melee Jobs with BRD doesnt work. But that doesnt matter since any 6 man pt will overkill any camp way faster then it ever was done in ToAU era (assuming the melees dont suck).

I agree with this. The biggest thing isn't even nasty mobs, they'll die quickly just the same. It's a matter of mob respawn and density. There's obviously nothing like that in non-Adoulin areas and not too many in Adoulin. A strong DD with a healer can already lay waste to almost any camp in Adoulin. What will a PT of 3 strong DDs with BRD and COR buffs do?

[Selindrile]

I agree with this. The biggest thing isn't even nasty mobs, they'll die quickly just the same. It's a matter of mob respawn and density. There's obviously nothing like that in non-Adoulin areas and not too many in Adoulin. A strong DD with a healer can already lay waste to almost any camp in Adoulin. What will a PT of 3 strong DDs with BRD and COR buffs do?

Not get any exp, or rather, far less than a soloist with trust out.